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Where does Lionel Messi rank in tGOAT athletes discussion in the world?

Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:02 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:02 pm
Tiger, Jordan, Brady, Messi?
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13762 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:09 pm to
Messi and Gretzky are the best two ever for team sports
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
13849 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:09 pm to
He’s

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40347 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:11 pm to
Gretzky and Phelps are pretty unassailable as greatest “GOATs” in any sport

Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
5063 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:17 pm to
I've heard of him, but not even sure his sport. Sounds foreign.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13680 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:43 pm to
Gretzky is team GOAT based around dominance compared to #2.
Tiger, Bolt, Mondo and Phelps tops among individual dominance
Jordan is the GOAT other GOATs proclaim the GOAT. He inspires the most "awe" from even the greatest of athletes.
Messi being the GOAT of the most popular sport in the worlds history does mean something.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
16015 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 12:05 am to
Dude walks around half the time, then he turns on tGOAT machine and kills it

Brilliant... and i absolutely HATE soccer, but he figured out his formula for success
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55165 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 12:05 am to
Messi has to be up there… not just that his teams win but the impact he’s had and his longevity… most soccer players are done long before 39 but Messi’s trying to win one more World Cup

And people make jokes about Messi walking and Argentina’s team running for him, about being fresher because (of course) he plays in MLS… he’s winning there too
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9951 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 12:21 am to
quote:

Messi and Gretzky are the best two ever for team sports

I think Jordan would have to be included too
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
12284 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 12:30 am to
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Messi and Gretzky


The only difference is how much of the world cares about Hockey? Messi became the GOAT in a sport that 95% of the world wants to be the GOAT in. Gretzky did it in a sport that only Canada would pick as the most important.
Posted by Rrrrroger
Member since Mar 2021
1403 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 12:33 am to
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I think Jordan would have to be included too

Lebron is significantly closer to Jordan (or ahead depending on your school of thought) than anyone is to Messi fwiw
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15371 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 7:10 am to
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Lebron is significantly closer to Jordan


On the basketball court, it’s razor thin between Jordan and LeBron if we’re being honest. Jordan is a better winner than LeBron, but LeBron has better longevity, physical ability and statistics.

Where Jordan crushes LeBron, and just about everyone else, is as a pop culture icon.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
5018 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 7:21 am to
Jordan crushes LeBron between the ears my friend.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/18/26 at 7:24 am to
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Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9948 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 7:54 am to
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Tiger, Bolt, Mondo and Phelps tops among individual dominance


Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic deserve to be in this conversation.

Roger will always be my tennis GOAT as he made the game look so easy and effortless and awed you every match.

Rafa and Djoker came along and took things to the next level with their endurance and sheer will to grind things out.

The general public needs to put more respeck on tennis players' name as the sport is a brutal grind and yall normies don't get it. *Pride bat signal*
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7715 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:15 am to
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only difference is how much of the world cares about Hockey? Messi became the GOAT in a sport that 95% of the world wants to be the GOAT in. Gretzky did it in a sport that only Canada would pick as the most important.


Messi has more competition due to how many more people play, this is true. But hockey is a significantly more demanding sport, and far more violent. People were trying to headhunt Gretzky for two decades, when that was completely legal in hockey, and no one could touch him. And Gretzky wasn't a goal scorer - he was a playmaker. He has more assists than anyone else has *points*, and still he was the goal scoring GOAT until Ovechkin.

Gretzky, Messi, Jordan are all top-tier, and didn't have rules specifically designed to protect them (looking at you, Brady). All three won everything there was to win, while making their teammates significantly better in the process.
This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 8:18 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52549 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:22 am to
What are his accolades

Know very little about him
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7445 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:45 am to
The way Pogacar has dominated cycling the last few years is on par with what anybody has done in the history of sports.

In a sport that's had a clear cut GOAT like Jordan or Gretzky for 50 years, he's become the best.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38139 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:54 am to
Everyone forgets Pele

He was instrumental in winning 3 World Cups. Whereas back in the late 60s and early 70s he played mostly professionally in Brazil rather than Europe

1,279 verified goals over his career

But internationally until recently, if you were to ask people in Europe, the Americas and Africa and maybe Japan .......Ali was revered
Posted by Redbonebandit
Member since Dec 2019
1498 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:41 am to
Messi isnt just be best player at soccer he's the 3 best players, goals, assists, and carrying the ball forward. Gretzky is the only comparison given Messi's assists in addition to his goals.
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