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re: UF’s Jack Pyburn’s NIL demands

Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:59 am to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:59 am to
If this was about name image and likeness HE would be getting the money, not demanding it from universities.

The insanity will only continue
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14359 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:25 pm to
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all players look at the portal as a way to possibly “move up” and other players by and large support them


I get your point but I think you’re wrong here
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
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I get your point but I think you’re wrong here


No chance. Players always want other players to get the bag. It’s better for them all
Posted by OscarTheGrouch
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5866 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:46 pm to
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-45K per month -guaranteed starting position at OLB -guaranteed to play on 3rd down -more snaps in the rotation.


quote:

now he’s in the portal


Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1759 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:57 pm to
It doesn't sound like he's an NFL prospect and if he made it, it wouldn't be for long. I guess you have to try and get the money now. I wonder if he knows the government is going to take 50% of the 45K?

FWIW I saw a post that said NIL agents are taking 20% of the deal. For reference,Marketing agents take 10% and NFL agents take 1-3%.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:10 pm to
this post pretty much sums up where we are in 2024 as a nation, constant bitching and moaning and worrying about how much money others make.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:13 pm to
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The NFL, MLB, NBA, etc are ALL monopolies than cannot legally exist in the US without an antitrust exemption. The leagues get that antitrust exemption through collective bargaining between management/ownership and labor (i.e. the players). Those rules have all be negotiated and agreed to by both sides.

I don’t think that’s true. I’m pretty sure the only league with an antitrust exemption is MLB. The rest aren’t protected.


These aren’t contracts and these players aren’t getting paid based on NIL. 99% of them have zero NIL value. shite most actual pros in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL etc have little to no actual NIL value.


These are straight up bribes to come play for “my” school. Makes what Christian Dawkins did seem childish.
5 years ago-FBI wiretaps, you go to federal prison.
Today - do the exact same thing, it’s fine
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14909 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:18 pm to
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45K per month


Hell, there's no need to put in "guaranteed to play on 3rd down" and "more snaps in the rotation".

Uh, son... if we are paying you $45,000 a month to play football here, you will play on every snap of every down on BOTH sides of the ball.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5858 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:25 pm to
Who knew the best post grad jobs back in 2023 were crypto brokers and NIL agents
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46556 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:34 pm to
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This is the schools’ and NCAA’s fault. Classify the players as employees and write buyouts into their contracts. It would stop a lot of this transfer shite, but the schools and NCAA were greedy.


This is also the fault of the idiots screaming for years to pay the players. Everyone knew this would be a clusterfrick. The NCAA knows it will be non-existent in a few years and said fine, and gave everyone exactly what they thought they wanted. They knew full well that allowing this would lead to chaos and here we are.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:37 pm to
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The NCAA knows it will be non-existent in a few years and said fine, and gave everyone exactly what they thought they wanted. They knew full well that allowing this would lead to chaos and here we are.

You’re giving an organization that hasn’t shown it can tie its own shoes an awful lot of credit
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54983 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:23 pm to
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Hell, there's no need to put in "guaranteed to play on 3rd down" and "more snaps in the rotation".

Uh, son... if we are paying you $45,000 a month to play football here, you will play on every snap of every down on BOTH sides of the ball.


Question about the 45k a month… is that just during the football season or 12 months a year?

That’s a half million plus if it’s for 12 months
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13333 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:27 pm to
The guaranteed position and scheme is to me a problem. Those are earned and lost during spring and practice.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79519 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:29 pm to
Did you think playing football for no money was more
similar to the real world workplace?
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4985 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:31 pm to
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The NFL, MLB, NBA, etc are ALL monopolies than cannot legally exist in the US without an antitrust exemption
You are wrong.

MLB is the only league that has an antitrust exempion.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
973 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:43 pm to
Maybe the schools should simply stop accepting transfers and then these guys would stay because they have no where to go. This isn’t societies fault. It’s the schools who want to win just like paying guys under the table. Just stop it all. Recruit kids out of high school and then win or lose with them. Losing isn’t he end of the world, but it’s us fans who jump all over coaches who do t win enough. Look at Napier as a perfect example. He’s a decent enough coach that most here have been making fun of him for years because he hasn’t won enough games? How stupid is that. Kirby has had people around his program die yet he’s a genius because he buys enough players to win a few more games, It’s a joke because the schools let this crap happen,
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54983 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:26 pm to
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It’s a joke because the schools let this crap happen,


The schools let it happen because we demand it

If your team wasn’t paying for talent they’d be losing and the coach would have hell to pay from fans who are putting too much money in to accept losing.

“It just means more” wasn’t just a marketing slogan
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37435 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:36 pm to
Coaches can’t coach or discipline players.

Coaches are also distracted with way more bullshite than the past having to manage and re-recruit their entire roster every year, recruit HS kids and also track other players in portal to recruit.

None of it is good and definitely doesn’t make a better product on the field.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30258 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:49 pm to
This kid seems really concerned with winning and losing…not.

frick it, if I was the coach I’d release him from scholarship and wish him well. Players have zero business demanding what downs they play.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
973 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:00 pm to
The fans do not demand it. About 20 teams fans demand their coaches lie, cheat, and steal to win. The rest don’t. You don’t see Arkansas, Virginia, Boise, and 100 other schools fans freaking out when they lose. It’s about 20 schools that have fans who are totally out of control. The rest of the schools and fans enjoy the sport but don’t poison trees or get in fist fights because our team goes 6-6. It happens.

As a fan of one of these mid pack teams, I love NIL because it stripped away the major advantage those 20 teams had for decades being able to buy players with little competition.

We should all applaud Napier for telling this player to kick rocks. But the problem is some coach who pose fanbase will destroy him if he doesn’t win will absolutely take in this player and yet no one will say a thing. Maybe the shame should shift from the school losing a player to the school signing the player. For all the poaching a school like Ole Miss has done the last 3 years, where has it gotten them? No where.
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