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re: Tom Izzo says ncaa should get rid of automatic bids for mid majors. Do you agree?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
the day stories like St. Peter's arent a thing anymore is the day i quit caring about the ncaa tournament. It's the only thing keeping me around now.
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:21 pm to Porpus
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Anyone who uses the term "mid major" in 2024 is a jackass.
How would you describe the teams not in the power conferences?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:23 pm to Buckeye Backer
For real...Izzo is beyond lucky his team got in.
Team A (19-14) resume:
*Illinois (26-8)
*Baylor (23-10)
Indiana St (28-6)
*Northwestern (21-11)
(2-5) in last 7 games of season.
Team B (21-13) resume:
*Purdue (29-4)
*Alabama (21-11)
*Nebraska (23-10)
*@ Michigan St (19-14)
(6-1) in last 7 games of season.
*Indicates NCAA Tournament selection.
Without looking, just comparing wins...who are you taking??? Team A or Team B...One team won head to head!! One team was firmly in...and the other wasnt even on the bubble. Make it make sense to me. So Izzo can shove it!!
Team A (19-14) resume:
*Illinois (26-8)
*Baylor (23-10)
Indiana St (28-6)
*Northwestern (21-11)
(2-5) in last 7 games of season.
Team B (21-13) resume:
*Purdue (29-4)
*Alabama (21-11)
*Nebraska (23-10)
*@ Michigan St (19-14)
(6-1) in last 7 games of season.
*Indicates NCAA Tournament selection.
Without looking, just comparing wins...who are you taking??? Team A or Team B...One team won head to head!! One team was firmly in...and the other wasnt even on the bubble. Make it make sense to me. So Izzo can shove it!!
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If anything teams like USF and Indiana State should get in over a 20-15 team
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The ought to back off giving bids to teams that finish 5th in the their conference, no matter the size of the conference. If you have had a season to prove that you are not a top 5 conference team, then you have proven you don't belong in the tournament.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:31 pm to chalmetteowl
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How would you describe the teams not in the power conferences?
I wouldn't, because basketball doesn't have "power conferences." At least, there's no agreed-upon list.
Mid-major originally meant "D1 basketball teams without a I-A football team." At some point, so many teams moved up to I-A football that people decided that wasn't a good criterion. After that point, which I'd put around 2000, there was no longer any agreed-upon definition of "mid-major" and it should have gone away.
Some people use the term to refer to schools with P5 football teams, but that's football, the "P5" distinction is itself breaking down, and that criterion is just bad. It excludes teams from conferences like the Big East, A10, etc.
I've seen people throw the AAC into the "major" category, but have you seen ECU's gym? North Texas is "major" now?
At the same time, I don't really think that Memphis team that came out of CUSA and got to the tournament finals (where they took an obvious dive) was "mid-major," and yet Memphis is in the AAC. So is the AAC "major?" Was CUSA when Memphis was in it? How about Louisville? Tulane, ECU, and Southern Miss were in that conference, too.
My point is that "mid major" once had a meaning, but it's turned into meaning "team that I [whoever the frick I may be] didn't think was good at basketball." There are better ways to say that.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:34 pm to Porpus
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because basketball doesn't have "power conferences." At least, there's no agreed-upon list.
SEC
ACC
Big 12
Big Ten
Big East
PAC 12
Mid Major is everything else, generally conferences you don’t see on TV often
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:36 pm to tween the hedges
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Straight up ranking the top 68 teams would have a lot more upsets and more parity but would be a far worse product.
100% agree.
Watching 30 win McNeese is far more intriguing than watching a 17 win mediocre team from a power conference.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:36 pm to Pedro
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the day stories like St. Peter's arent a thing anymore is the day i quit caring about the ncaa tournament. It's the only thing keeping me around now.
Exactly. The thing that makes it exciting is that every team has an opportunity. You can go 10-20 then win your conference tourney and still have a chance.
I don't wanna watch the 8th best team in the big 10 play in the tourney, I wanna see teams from difference conferences
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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SEC commissioner Greg Sankey made similar statements
Well that asswipe has been on a mission to eliminate every Conference and just have the media follow the SEC...so he's not really an objective voice and his opinions are not healthy for National college athletics.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:44 pm to chalmetteowl
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Mid Major is everything else, generally conferences you don’t see on TV often
Not everyone subscribes to that list, though, and I don't find arguing about which conferences should be on the list interesting. Better to just shitcan the term.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:49 pm to Buckeye Backer
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.if MSU had any guts, they would tell him it's time to retire!!
I know you are an Ohio State guy, but MSU fans are full blown fire Izzo right now. My cousins are diehard State fans and I couldnt believe what I was hearing, they want him gone. The teams havent had a rim protector for like 5 years and apparently his lineups and adjustments have been terrible.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Small conference Cinderellas are like the best part of the sport.
So yea, fuk it, get rid of em.
2024
So yea, fuk it, get rid of em.
2024
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:10 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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They need to expand to 100 or so teams
Almost 20% of teams in div I make the tournament now. Expansion would only be for the money.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Izzo is an idiot.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:14 pm to Wally Sparks
fricking terrible idea. Shame on you Izzo.
Getting that NCAA tourney bid is the ultimate prize for a vast majority of conferences in this country, and removing that pushes every single one of them further toward being completely irrelevant.
And the single bid conference tourney championships are highly entertaining because of what's at stake.
Getting that NCAA tourney bid is the ultimate prize for a vast majority of conferences in this country, and removing that pushes every single one of them further toward being completely irrelevant.
And the single bid conference tourney championships are highly entertaining because of what's at stake.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Izzo told reporters ahead of the Spartans’ first-round game against Mississippi State Friday in Charlotte that automatic bids for mid- and low-major conference tournament champions have “got to be looked at seriously.”
“While everybody likes the upsets in the first round I’m not sure if that’s true as it goes on,” Izzo said, per ESPN’s David Hale.
Lol at this self serving shithead vomiting out this BS the same day UVA gave us all proof positive that mid tier teams from power conferences need to shut the frick up and deal w/sometimes getting bumped off the bubble.
quote:
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey made similar statements Friday
This dude is on a mission to ruin college sports. Is there a betting line on how soon he becomes an employee for Disney in some form or fashion after he's done w/the SEC b/c he sure as shite looks like an agent for ESPN....
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not only no, but hell no.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
yeah, i mean who doesnt want 19-14 10-10 majors in the tourney
izzo can go frick himself, he's a little count, crying about midmajors. He should worry about his mediocre team, and the coaching job he did, not midmajors.
izzo can go frick himself, he's a little count, crying about midmajors. He should worry about his mediocre team, and the coaching job he did, not midmajors.
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