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re: The NFL is starting to become concerned with the quality of QB coming up from college
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:09 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:09 am to H-Town Tiger
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I love when people point to Green Bay as the model because Rodgers then Love sat. Rodgers may have a rookie year like Dan Marino for all we know, but I think there’s no doubt he would have just fine starting year 2 and 3 instead of wasting 2 years of his early 20s holding a clip board
Plenty of QBs sit and suck too. Reality is it’s roulette for all of these guys
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The bottom line is no one in college owes the NFL shite.
If a QB wants to sit at the same school for 3-5 years for “developmental reasons” regarding the NFL, he can. If he wants to bounce around for NIL deals, he can. If he wants to pursue academic ambitions, he can.
And college coaches are paid to win, not develop players for the NFL. Fans and the PTB would rather see a coach win a natty running the wishbone without a single player drafted than fall short and have ten players drafted in the first round who all go on to be Hall of Famers.
frick the NFL’s concerns.
If a QB wants to sit at the same school for 3-5 years for “developmental reasons” regarding the NFL, he can. If he wants to bounce around for NIL deals, he can. If he wants to pursue academic ambitions, he can.
And college coaches are paid to win, not develop players for the NFL. Fans and the PTB would rather see a coach win a natty running the wishbone without a single player drafted than fall short and have ten players drafted in the first round who all go on to be Hall of Famers.
frick the NFL’s concerns.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:29 pm to SenGooner
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Mensah is easily the guy in this class. He's been great at 3 schools/systems. Very accurate, very smart, and very competitive. He moves well enough and his arm strength is good enough. He's a better version of Bryce Young, that went 1 a few years ago. (Stronger arm, more accurate, taller).
You spelled Mestemaker wrong.
I’d take Chambliss over Mensah too.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 1:24 pm to UnluckyTiger
Meste has a rocket arm. Meste is the Herbert in this class. Mensah is the Burrow. Maybe 1 day people will learn it's not about who can throw the ball the hardest.
Chambliss is old as dirt. Mensah already better than him at everything except undisciplined scrambling.
Chambliss is old as dirt. Mensah already better than him at everything except undisciplined scrambling.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 1:40 pm to UnluckyTiger
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I’d take Chambliss over Mensah too.
You also think Jayden Daniels is a hall of famer from one season
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:31 pm to Geauxgurt
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Colleges are not focused on prepping QBs for the NFL. They are prepping their QBs to win at college, and I cannot blame them.
When is the last time you heard a college QB referred to as a “pro-style passer”?
Used to hear it all the time
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:22 am to RollTide1987
Maybe they should stop overvaluing bums at QB.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:43 am to RollTide1987
What do you expect?
You clowns scream for mobile qbs. Offense can't function today without a mobile qb. The day of the pocket passer is over.
Well, when you spend half your time running, you aren't learning how to read defenses, go through your progressions and improving your passing. It's no coincidence Leavitt is a better passer after a leg injury - same as Mauck.
Now it's catching up and the pros aren't happy.
You clowns scream for mobile qbs. Offense can't function today without a mobile qb. The day of the pocket passer is over.
Well, when you spend half your time running, you aren't learning how to read defenses, go through your progressions and improving your passing. It's no coincidence Leavitt is a better passer after a leg injury - same as Mauck.
Now it's catching up and the pros aren't happy.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 9:03 am to LegendInMyMind
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It is almost like a revolving door of coaches, turning over 50% of a roster after every season, and changing programs multiple times leads to minimal development of players. It isn't just QBs, they're just the first to get noticed.
And paying them millions of dollars they haven’t earned can’t help their work ethic either…
Posted on 10/29/26 at 9:39 am to TROLA
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Well NFL teams run a fundamentally different offense than the majority of high level colleges…
And that gap has been widening over the last few years. NFL offenses are going back under center at a very high % the last few seasons while college teams are exclusively SG and closer to HS offenses with the OC telling the QB what to do every play, pre snap.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:36 am to Tiger Prawn
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lighting up the competition playing against high schools with 300 students.
1A schools don't have 300 kids my man.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:40 am to RollTide1987
Kyler Murray got drafted because of ESPN , that's when i really took notice. His junior year all the talking heads said he was to short and needed to go play baseball. He balled out and won a Heisman and everyone forgot he was 5'9. Charlie Ward won a Heisman and all the scouts said he should play basketball and he did.
The NFL has a development issue also. Young qb's get 3years on shite teams to prove themselves. Then they move on a waste another top 10 pick on an underdeveloped QB
The NFL has a development issue also. Young qb's get 3years on shite teams to prove themselves. Then they move on a waste another top 10 pick on an underdeveloped QB
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:42 am to Madking
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And that gap has been widening over the last few years. NFL offenses are going back under center at a very high % the last few seasons while college teams are exclusively SG and closer to HS offenses with the OC telling the QB what to do every play, pre snap.
You can’t run RPO’s in the nfl because lineman can’t go downfield and receivers can’t block even if the pass is behind the line of scrimmage. Kills the RPO in the professional game and makes offenses fundamentally different
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 10:50 am
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:00 am to RollTide1987
Most QB's are too raw for the NFL game week 1 and drafted high = on bad team and likely a new coaching staff. They need to sit first year more times than not, or at least half a season+ while they learn and adapt.
No different than true freshmen in college at the position, rarely does it work out well for even the most highly ranked recruits.
No different than true freshmen in college at the position, rarely does it work out well for even the most highly ranked recruits.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:38 am to UnluckyTiger
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Chambliss
Some team is going to waste a first rounder on him hoping hero ball translates to the NFL
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:44 am to NIH
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Some team is going to waste a first rounder on him hoping hero ball translates to the NFL
Chambliss is probably the best qb currently in college at playing in rhythm
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:50 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Sure
Posted on 10/30/26 at 8:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Plenty of QBs sit and suck too. Reality is it’s roulette for all of these guys
Another favorite of mine is they have should build a team around him first. Aside from being easier said than done, the Bengals, who they point to as a team that should have built OL before taking Burrow actually DID just that, drafting OL in the first round of the 2018 and 2019 drafts.
We say it’s roulette but good organizations usually find a way.
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