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re: The NFL is starting to become concerned with the quality of QB coming up from college
Posted on 10/27/26 at 8:58 pm to StansberryRules
Posted on 10/27/26 at 8:58 pm to StansberryRules
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The transfer portal.
Most QBs are playing at 2-3 schools in 3-4 years.
Absolutely no development
Posted on 10/27/26 at 8:59 pm to Geauxgurt
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Colleges are not focused on prepping QBs for the NFL. They are prepping their QBs to win at college, and I cannot blame them. The absurd thing is the NFL being frustrated w it h college teams focusing on winning and keeping their jobs instead of serving as a free minor league for the NFL. NFL needs to go screw itself trying to whine about this. Stop expecting rookie QBs to be great and actually develop them yourselves or pay for your own minor league and let college football go back to being about the schools.
Sorry I can only upvote once
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:01 pm to RollTide1987
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The NFL is starting to become concerned with the quality of QB coming up from college
Why? This is nothing new.
There has never been generational QBs in each draft.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:04 pm to Downeast12
That's the irony. College systems are probably closer to pro systems now than they ever have been.
There just aren't many option or wishbone teams around anymore. Most teams run some variation of the spread and almost no teams have a statue at QB. Teams that do have a statue at QB are sitting ducks against a defense that is even slightly overmatched and have no answer for modern college defenses.
There just aren't many option or wishbone teams around anymore. Most teams run some variation of the spread and almost no teams have a statue at QB. Teams that do have a statue at QB are sitting ducks against a defense that is even slightly overmatched and have no answer for modern college defenses.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:11 pm to LegendInMyMind
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It is almost like a revolving door of coaches, turning over 50% of a roster after every season, and changing programs multiple times leads to minimal development of players. It isn't just QBs, they're just the first to get noticed.
unfortunately for parities sake, this is a direct and unavoidable consequence of a salary cap, in every sport. it just hits football worse because of how paramount competent quarterbacking on the cheap is
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:18 pm to biglego
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I’ve been hearing about bad QB development for years for about 15+ years now ever since RPO offenses took over and colleges moved away from pro style offenses.
For my entire life the NFL has only had like ~10 high level qbs at any given time.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:18 pm to RollTide1987
This is the same league that continually rehires failed coaches thinking things will be different for their own teams
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:25 pm to Ed Osteen
Honest question, where are all the 2 and 3 star guys going? I have no idea? It is wild to me that no colleges are developing ‘back up’ Qbs that are lower stars and may just turn into starters these days? It was very common practice for teams to take a stud Qb and a back up every year and then in 2-3 years the back up would be “asked” to leave if they didn’t develop as 4-5 qbs was too many on the roster.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:26 pm to StansberryRules
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Most QBs are playing at 2-3 schools in 3-4 years. Absolutely no development
Switching of schools in and of itself does not impede development. Tyler Shough is a great example.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 9:27 pm to Downeast12
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Lol they’ve been saying this forever. Would they prefer the 70s and 80s when everyone ran the wishbone and triple option in college?
Maybe the NFL needs to sit and develop the qbs now instead of expecting them to play right away.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:42 pm to RollTide1987
It’s not just QB play. I’ve been ranting about how shitty CFB has become from a quality standpoint. Every season is playing with hired guns and you don’t have time to invest in development.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:17 am to RollTide1987
Mensah is easily the guy in this class. He's been great at 3 schools/systems. Very accurate, very smart, and very competitive. He moves well enough and his arm strength is good enough. He's a better version of Bryce Young, that went 1 a few years ago. (Stronger arm, more accurate, taller).
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 3:29 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:59 am to chalmetteowl
You're not wrong. It makes those national signing days pretty worthless by the offseason like hell yeah I'm on your team, just kidding, I'm out.
Imagine putting all that work in to recruit top players just to lose them for a shiny new option (new recruit, or the lure of the portal).
Imagine putting all that work in to recruit top players just to lose them for a shiny new option (new recruit, or the lure of the portal).
Posted on 10/28/26 at 5:24 am to RollTide1987
Karma. NFL stole Thursday nights, Thanksgiving, and the Blue-Gray Bowl on Christmas from college football.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 6:21 am to LegendInMyMind
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It is almost like a revolving door of coaches, turning over 50% of a roster after every season, and changing programs multiple times leads to minimal development of players. It isn't just QBs, they're just the first to get noticed.
But some of the guys who fizzled this year have been at their program for a long time like Manning or Moore
I think people are just overstating a class that was overrated from the get-go. We all saw Manning and his issues already last year. He is slightly better this year, but it's hard to fundamentally change someone with his physical profile that much. And Moore always had issues and I don't think another year was necessarily going to pull a burrow or something. The injury obviously hurts
When people make silly predictions that ultimately turn out to be proven to be silly, they often try to spin it after the fact like what we see in this article
Posted on 10/28/26 at 6:22 am to Drydock
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Why are QBS now judged by "measurables" and not by what's between the ears.
Josh Allen
And that trend is changing
Posted on 10/28/26 at 6:22 am to RollTide1987
i've been saying this for over a decade
there arent 20 good qb's in the nfl, and 20 might be stretching it
there arent 20 good qb's in the nfl, and 20 might be stretching it
Posted on 10/28/26 at 6:35 am to Powerman
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That's the irony. College systems are probably closer to pro systems now than they ever have been.
Yes. The NFL has more liberally stolen from college the past 20 years and college offenses now are much closer to NFL offenses than they've ever been.
Take the era of Brady and Manning in CFB. When they were in CFB you still had a huge chunk of the teams running pure/traditional option, including major programs like Nebraska. Then you had the Michigan/UTenn offenses, which are much simpler and elementary compared to offenses today. That stylistic era didn't impede them in the NFL. Brees played in a similar offense to the Air Raid, which is a much simpler version of passing systems today.
And then there is Drake Maye, who was in a whatever offensive system at UNC, was drafted on tools, and now runs the same McDaniels offense Brady ran, and did it at a higher level earlier in his career than Brady did (People forget how much of Brady's career was as a game manager).
This is just a lot of sour grapes because Arch Manning didn't turn into the guy these same writers and scouts irrationally hyped for years. Now it is some systemic issue and not that they were very wrong.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 6:45 am to stlslick
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there arent 20 good qb's in the nfl, and 20 might be stretching it
You're going to have a hard time arguing there are 20 good QBs in any year
I would imagine the 20th today (which this year is like a Hurts or Darnold) is better than the 20th you'd find in the 90s or 00s
This is what Deshawn Watson is projected to do over 17 games, based on the first 7:
3599 yards (7th)
64/8% passing (1st)
7.1 ypa (11th)
17 TDs 15th)
7 INTs (2nd)
91.1 rating (6th)
In parentheses are where these stats would rank in 1998 (min 224 passing attempts, which is the NFL cutoff for 1998)
And you have to remember he's doing this against NFL defenses that are insanely better and more complex than what was run in 1998....on the Browns.
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 6:46 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 6:49 am to Drydock
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How many offenses are one read, tuck and run? Why are QBS now judged by "measurables" and not by what's between the ears.
Watch college football games closely and come back and tell me how many QB's are going past one or two reads.......ain't very many.
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