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re: So Jose Fernandez Was The Coked Up Driver Of The Boat....

Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:51 am to
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:51 am to
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was it an addiction or a one time thing? How often does the MLB test and does the test miss stuff like that? How long does it stay in your system? #notacokeheadsoidontknowthesethings


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:33 am to
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But MLB will b make him out as a victim.
Well, that's not true.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:34 am to
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It's on those guys for riding with him, too. I never drink and drive, but I have let drunks drive me a million times. That's on me if I die with my friends mario karting me around.
Exactly. You know if your friend has been drinking and doing coke, and from what we know from those texts released, the one friend knew how Jose was and was warned and asked to not go/be careful, adn he still chose to go. Very sad, very horrible decisions by Jose. But the friends were responsible for deciding to go along with a guy they knew was making horrible decisions as well.

Also, for anyone going hard and bashing Fernandez, I'm sure not a single one of you have ever drank and drive with someone else in your car, like not even once. Ok, sure thing.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:36 am to
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Not sorry I have no sympathy for someone who made several very stupid decisions with no regard to the safety of others.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:39 am to
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frick that, I am judging Fernandez on his shitty as decisions.

You've not once in your life drove after drinking?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:40 am to
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Since being an adult, especially since having children, I have not ever driven while loaded on alcohol and coke. And especially havent driven a car at about 125 mpoh while doing so(which is about the equivalent to the speed he was doing on a boat at night)


So no, not everyone has made egregious bad shitty decisions.
so before you were an adult and had children, you endangered the lives of other adults and children by driving drunk while not even yourself being an adult?

Sounds like a pretty bad shitty decision you should be judged for.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:42 am to
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Unfortunate 2 other men lost their lives because of this idiot
Those same 2 adults also chose to go on that boat with him knowing he was not sober.

They CHOSE to put their lives in danger knowing their friend was making a really poor decision to drive a boat in that condition...something those same friends had done before as well. And they chose to do it again that night.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13299 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:46 am to
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He has blood on his hands


well....not anymore...
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:49 am to
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Some of you are so dense and simple minded, it's hard to see how you function as adults. Not everything is binary, black and white. You can recognize he is at fault and made a terrible decision that cost people their lives, while still recognizing the tragedy that is a talented young man with the world at his fingers dying. It doesn't have to be an either/or between mourning the loss and condemning the wreckless behavior.




It's just sad all around.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60153 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:49 am to
It was the alcohol that likely caused him to crash, not cocaine. Coke is nothing compared to alcohol as far as the influence it has on your driving
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:51 am to
Which is wide open throttle in a Sea Vee 320z (the boat he was driving). So, WOT at night while drunk and high. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:52 am to
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cocaine


quote:

hard to glorify


GTFO
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:56 am to
not sure if already answered but have toxicology reports come back on the passengers in the boat?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:56 am to
Family shouldn't get a dime from the Marlins because it was his fault.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:58 am to
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so before you were an adult and had children, you endangered the lives of other adults and children by driving drunk while not even yourself being an adult?
No

I have never once in my life been drunk and drove, especially in the manor in which fernandez did. I don't think m y'all realize just how fricking reckless he was being

This isn't a scenario where a guy was over the legal limit, and got in a normal wreck that didn't have something to do with his impairment

He was driving full throttle at night while loaded
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119158 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:58 am to
Wasted sympathy
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:01 pm to
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No

I have never once in my life been drunk and drove, especially in the manor in which fernandez did. I don't think m y'all realize just how fricking reckless he was being

This isn't a scenario where a guy was over the legal limit, and got in a normal wreck that didn't have something to do with his impairment

He was driving full throttle at night while loaded

he was absolutely reckless and had he lived would and sould have been prosecuted for manslaughter. however, if everyone in the boat was also loaded, I have a hard time seeing the justification of a lawsuit against the Marlins and/or Fernandez's estate. That's contributory negligence
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:01 pm to
Yep. Go look at the Endymion crash thread. People were praying the driver would die


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:02 pm to
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I have a hard time seeing the justification of a lawsuit against the Marlins and/or Fernandez's estate. That's contributory negligence
I agree with this. What are the tox reports of the other guys?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I don't think m y'all realize just how fricking reckless he was being
I don't think any of us downplayed this, in the least.

Do you have any brothers, sisters, best friends? Have they all never drank and drove, and if they did, would you just shun them and think they were terrible for doing so?

quote:

This isn't a scenario where a guy was over the legal limit, and got in a normal wreck that didn't have something to do with his impairment

YOu're trying to pace degrees of things, but i you go back to your original process vs results premise, if someone is just drinking at .14 and they wreck and kill some father and his kid, does it matter? Does that make them less worse than Jose Fernandez?
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