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re: So Jose Fernandez Was The Coked Up Driver Of The Boat....
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:06 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:06 pm to lsupride87
So, one of the boat riders was neither drunk, nor had cocaine in his blood.......
So fernandez didn't simply kill a bunch of other guys "fricked up", he killed a truly innocent person....
The family of Macias is going to get a serious payday
So fernandez didn't simply kill a bunch of other guys "fricked up", he killed a truly innocent person....
quote:
Two of Fernandez's friends, Emilio Jesus Macias, 27, and Eduardo Rivero, 25, were also killed in the crash. Their toxicology reports show that neither was past the blood alcohol legal limit, though cocaine was found in Rivero's blood.
The family of Macias is going to get a serious payday
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:10 pm to lsupride87
If you're stone cold sober and you are letting someone high and drunk drive a boat you are not innocent
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:12 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:You serious? Get the frick out with that shite
If you're stone cold sober and you are letting someone high and drunk drive a boat you are not innocent
Fernandez could have been a selfish coked up hothead that refused to let anyone else drive his baot
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:12 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
If they got in with him knowing he was impaired they are not innocent at all.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:That had also gone out on boat rides with an F'ed up Fernandez before, and chose to go and do the same thing that night. At what point is an adult responsible for his decisions when he knew what was going on with Fernandez?
So, one of the boat riders was neither drunk, nor had cocaine in his blood.......
So fernandez didn't simply kill a bunch of other guys "fricked up", he killed a truly innocent person....
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:Then CHOOSE to not go on the boat with him.
You serious? Get the frick out with that shite
Fernandez could have been a selfish coked up hothead that refused to let anyone else drive his baot
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:14 pm to shel311
Fernandez was coked up and drunk before they got on the baot?
Link
Link
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:15 pm to lsupride87
There's still an argument to be made for contributory negligence even if one of the passengers was not legally intoxicated. Not saying his family wouldn't be successful in litigation (likely will come to a settlement if I had to guess). But if two people were drinking and doing blow and he was fully aware of that and still put himself in that dangerous situation, then he was also negligent and his negligence was a contributing factor in his own death. It's not like he was an innocent bystander who was struck by Fernandez's boat. He chose to put himself in a dangerous situation.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:15 pm to lsufball19
quote:So he should have jumped off the boat and swam home?
There's still an argument to be made for contributory negligence even if one of the passengers was not legally intoxicated. Not saying his family wouldn't be successful in litigation (likely will come to a settlement if I had to guess). But if two people were drinking and doing blow and he was fully aware of that and still put himself in that dangerous situation, then he was also negligent and his negligence was a contributing factor in his own death. It's not like he was an innocent bystander who was struck by Fernandez's boat. He chose to put himself in a dangerous situation.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:16 pm to lsupride87
quote:I don't feel like going find a link, but there was an article that showed a text string of one of the friends that died. It made it very clear that they had gone out with Jose before on his boat and Jose would be impaired on the boat with the friend.
Fernandez was coked up and drunk before they got on the baot?
Link
Another friend in the text was pleading with one of the now dead friends to not go, or to just be very careful if he chose to go.
Can you hear that and STILL actually think they had no clue? If so, how?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:Seems like a strange move when he could have just never gone on the boat at all.
So he should have jumped off the boat and swam home?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:
So he should have jumped off the boat and swam home?
That's quite a leap. He could have asked Fernandez to drive the boat himself, used his cell phone to call the police, asked Fernandez to drop him off at the dock, never gotten on the boat in the first place, etc. I mean do we know if Hernandez was intoxicated before or after he took the boat out? That's kind of important as well.
It appears as if this wasn't the first time Fernandez had done this, so I think the friend very well could have known what would be going on when he stepped on the boat.
BTW, in no way am I condoning anything Fernandez did or excusing him for anything. But there are clearly mitigating factors regarding the friends' choices and the result of their deaths.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:18 pm to shel311
quote:Hiky shite Fernandez sounds even more like a pos
Another friend in the text was pleading with one of the now dead friends to not go, or to just be very careful if he chose to go.
quote:If what you posted is true, than I concede the friend knew. However, if want you said is true, Fernandez sounds even shittier now
Can you hear that and STILL actually think they had no clue? If so, how?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:19 pm to lsufball19
quote:That is everything to me
mean do we know if Hernandez was intoxicated before or after he took the boat out? That's kind of important as well.
Once you are out on the boat, you are pretty much fricked if Fernandez refuses to give you the keys
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:20 pm to lsupride87
quote:I don't think anyone was doubting that Jose got drunk, on coke, and drove his boat before. I think that's a given.
Hiky shite Fernandez sounds even more like a pos
Here you go:
LINK
The friend literally asked the now dead dude to turn on some kind of Phone finding app, if that's not a warning that the dude knew he was taking a serious risk...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:22 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The family of Macias is going to get a serious payday
I dont think so, Jose never really made much, definitely nowhere near what a pitcher like him was worth. I wanna say I read his estate was like $2.5M but I could be wrong
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:22 pm to lsupride87
"Jury,yes my client drove fricked up on cocaine and alcohol, yes the Plantiff was sober, but he knew Fernandez was a drunk other times in his life so we owe his estate no money"
I think that wouldn't fly at all
They will have to prove the friend knew he was intoxicsted that night in order to not owe them money IMHO
I think that wouldn't fly at all
They will have to prove the friend knew he was intoxicsted that night in order to not owe them money IMHO
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:23 pm to shel311
quote:Is what you are posting supposed to make Jose look better?
Another article with more quotes from the friend, he said he specifically told him not to go with Jose that night, he didn't have a good feeling about as Jose was upset...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:23 pm to lsupride87
quote:I completely agree.
That is everything to me
Once you are out on the boat, you are pretty much fricked if Fernandez refuses to give you the keys
But I think those 2 links with the texts seal the deal, unless that dude is telling some elaborate lie. It was painfully clear from those texts that at least that 1 dude knew there serious risks in going on that boat with Jose, and he still chose to do so.
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