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re: So Jose Fernandez Was The Coked Up Driver Of The Boat....

Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:06 pm to
So, one of the boat riders was neither drunk, nor had cocaine in his blood.......

So fernandez didn't simply kill a bunch of other guys "fricked up", he killed a truly innocent person....

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Two of Fernandez's friends, Emilio Jesus Macias, 27, and Eduardo Rivero, 25, were also killed in the crash. Their toxicology reports show that neither was past the blood alcohol legal limit, though cocaine was found in Rivero's blood.


The family of Macias is going to get a serious payday
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:10 pm to
If you're stone cold sober and you are letting someone high and drunk drive a boat you are not innocent
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:12 pm to
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If you're stone cold sober and you are letting someone high and drunk drive a boat you are not innocent
You serious? Get the frick out with that shite

Fernandez could have been a selfish coked up hothead that refused to let anyone else drive his baot
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:12 pm to
If they got in with him knowing he was impaired they are not innocent at all.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:13 pm to
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So, one of the boat riders was neither drunk, nor had cocaine in his blood.......

So fernandez didn't simply kill a bunch of other guys "fricked up", he killed a truly innocent person....
That had also gone out on boat rides with an F'ed up Fernandez before, and chose to go and do the same thing that night. At what point is an adult responsible for his decisions when he knew what was going on with Fernandez?

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:13 pm to
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You serious? Get the frick out with that shite

Fernandez could have been a selfish coked up hothead that refused to let anyone else drive his baot
Then CHOOSE to not go on the boat with him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:14 pm to
Fernandez was coked up and drunk before they got on the baot?

Link
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:15 pm to
There's still an argument to be made for contributory negligence even if one of the passengers was not legally intoxicated. Not saying his family wouldn't be successful in litigation (likely will come to a settlement if I had to guess). But if two people were drinking and doing blow and he was fully aware of that and still put himself in that dangerous situation, then he was also negligent and his negligence was a contributing factor in his own death. It's not like he was an innocent bystander who was struck by Fernandez's boat. He chose to put himself in a dangerous situation.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:15 pm to
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There's still an argument to be made for contributory negligence even if one of the passengers was not legally intoxicated. Not saying his family wouldn't be successful in litigation (likely will come to a settlement if I had to guess). But if two people were drinking and doing blow and he was fully aware of that and still put himself in that dangerous situation, then he was also negligent and his negligence was a contributing factor in his own death. It's not like he was an innocent bystander who was struck by Fernandez's boat. He chose to put himself in a dangerous situation.
So he should have jumped off the boat and swam home?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Fernandez was coked up and drunk before they got on the baot?

Link
I don't feel like going find a link, but there was an article that showed a text string of one of the friends that died. It made it very clear that they had gone out with Jose before on his boat and Jose would be impaired on the boat with the friend.

Another friend in the text was pleading with one of the now dead friends to not go, or to just be very careful if he chose to go.


Can you hear that and STILL actually think they had no clue? If so, how?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm to
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So he should have jumped off the boat and swam home?

Seems like a strange move when he could have just never gone on the boat at all.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

So he should have jumped off the boat and swam home?

That's quite a leap. He could have asked Fernandez to drive the boat himself, used his cell phone to call the police, asked Fernandez to drop him off at the dock, never gotten on the boat in the first place, etc. I mean do we know if Hernandez was intoxicated before or after he took the boat out? That's kind of important as well.

It appears as if this wasn't the first time Fernandez had done this, so I think the friend very well could have known what would be going on when he stepped on the boat.

BTW, in no way am I condoning anything Fernandez did or excusing him for anything. But there are clearly mitigating factors regarding the friends' choices and the result of their deaths.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Another friend in the text was pleading with one of the now dead friends to not go, or to just be very careful if he chose to go.
Hiky shite Fernandez sounds even more like a pos


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Can you hear that and STILL actually think they had no clue? If so, how?


If what you posted is true, than I concede the friend knew. However, if want you said is true, Fernandez sounds even shittier now
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:19 pm to
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mean do we know if Hernandez was intoxicated before or after he took the boat out? That's kind of important as well.
That is everything to me

Once you are out on the boat, you are pretty much fricked if Fernandez refuses to give you the keys
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Hiky shite Fernandez sounds even more like a pos

I don't think anyone was doubting that Jose got drunk, on coke, and drove his boat before. I think that's a given.

Here you go:

LINK


The friend literally asked the now dead dude to turn on some kind of Phone finding app, if that's not a warning that the dude knew he was taking a serious risk...
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:22 pm to
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The family of Macias is going to get a serious payday


I dont think so, Jose never really made much, definitely nowhere near what a pitcher like him was worth. I wanna say I read his estate was like $2.5M but I could be wrong
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:22 pm to
Another article with more quotes from the friend, he said he specifically told him not to go with Jose that night, he didn't have a good feeling about as Jose was upset...

LINK
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:22 pm to
"Jury,yes my client drove fricked up on cocaine and alcohol, yes the Plantiff was sober, but he knew Fernandez was a drunk other times in his life so we owe his estate no money"

I think that wouldn't fly at all

They will have to prove the friend knew he was intoxicsted that night in order to not owe them money IMHO
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Another article with more quotes from the friend, he said he specifically told him not to go with Jose that night, he didn't have a good feeling about as Jose was upset...
Is what you are posting supposed to make Jose look better?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

That is everything to me

Once you are out on the boat, you are pretty much fricked if Fernandez refuses to give you the keys

I completely agree.

But I think those 2 links with the texts seal the deal, unless that dude is telling some elaborate lie. It was painfully clear from those texts that at least that 1 dude knew there serious risks in going on that boat with Jose, and he still chose to do so.
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