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re: So Jose Fernandez Was The Coked Up Driver Of The Boat....
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:16 am to lsupride87
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:16 am to lsupride87
quote:That's good. That isn't what I said and your parsing leads me to believe I was right, but that still misses the point. It doesn't change everything else you or he accomplished in life.
I have not ever driven while loaded on alcohol and coke. And especially havent driven a car at about 125 mpoh while doing so(
I can, on one hand, appreciate his talent and kindness and the things he accomplished, and, on the other hand, condemn the choices he made that led to losing those things as well as costing others their lives and loved ones.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:17 am
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:16 am to lsupride87
quote:
Why does everyone only ever care about the outcome, and not the cause? The cause is where the bad decision comes into play.
If a father and son happened to be nigh fishing near the jetties, Fernandez's coked up arse would have ran them right over running at 65mph. All of a sudden, by making the same exact decision as before, we hate him more simply because of the result?
I haven't seen 1 person defend his actions.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:17 am to lsufan251875
quote:He would be hated. Truly a quandary.
Think of it this way: what if he survived the crash and the others still died?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:17 am to dabigfella
the pos got what he was asking for by doing that. Unfortunate 2 other men lost their lives because of this idiot
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:17 am to PearlJam
quote:Here is the thing, I think all that "kindness" is media fodder
I can, on one hand, appreciate his talent and kindness and the things he accomplished
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:19 am to lsufan251875
quote:It would be just as tragic and he would deserve to be prosecuted for his crimes. I could still appreciate the other good aspects of his life.
Think of it this way: what if he survived the crash and the others still died?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:21 am to PearlJam
quote:At what point do you stop appreciating the "good aspects" of a persons life?
I could still appreciate the other good aspects of his life.
I am sure you have a breaking point somewhere
Every murdered gangbanger has a momma and friends talking about how great of a person they are......
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:22 am to oleyeller
quote:I disagree with this
the pos
quote:More blunt than I would describe it, but not really wrong.
got what he was asking for by doing that
quote:Again, not wrong, but also doesn't capture the complicity of those other 2 men. They made similar bad choices that night.
Unfortunate 2 other men lost their lives because of this idiot
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:22 am to lsupride87
quote:When I'm not aware of them.
At what point do you stop appreciating the "good aspects" of a persons life?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:24 am to dabigfella
quote:
Idiot? Why? The guy was high on cocaine and drunk and he was operating a boat and killed 2 of his friends. Would you "honor" a drunk driver who kills 2 other people just bc he could throw a baseball well?
If he was drunk, coked up and having fun on a boat with two other people, guess what...............
They were all drunk and coked up.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
People do drugs ALL THE TIME. why so judgmental? DO you really care about these people?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:25 am to oleyeller
quote:
the pos got what he was asking for by doing that.
You are a POS.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:29 am to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:So, if nothing changes that night in terms of Fernandezs coked up drunk 65mph boat running state, but he happens to hit a father and son near the jetties, he is now a POS worthy to burn in hell right?
If he was drunk, coked up and having fun on a boat with two other people, guess what...............
They were all drunk and coked up.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:37 am to lsupride87
quote:What kind of POS farther has his son out on the jetties at that time of night? Jk
but he happens to hit a father and son near the jetties, he is now a POS worthy to burn in hell right?
Had he killed more innocent people, it would have added to the tragedy. It doesn't change any other aspect of who he was and what led to his death.
Reducing his life simply to this incident is just as simplistic as reducing his life to throwing the baseball good from 60 feet.
We should be capable of more complex thinking about people and life.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:42 am to PearlJam
quote:I am more complex than that, which is what you are missing.
Reducing his life simply to this incident is just as simplistic as reducing his life to throwing the baseball good from 60 feet.
We should be capable of more complex thinking about people and life.
I am using my complex brain to realize someone who drives a boat 65mph, while loaded on coke and booze, with a child on the way, likely is a person who is very selfish and makes plenty of decisions in which they center themselves as the most important person.
I am also being complex by saying, I see no reason to glorify a person I never met, who likely wasnt that great of a person, simply because he is famous with a good infectious smile.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:43 am to lsupride87
i wish i had your moral compass
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:44 am to lsupride87
:eyeroll:
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:45 am to Lester Earl
quote:Yeh, look at me on my moral high horse not lifting up coked up rich people who kill others and leave children fatherless.
i wish i had your moral compass
I am so moral
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
Look, I am not saying yall are bad people for saying you mourned the life of Fernandez.
I am saying that I find it interesting that you are mourning a coked up Cuban who died, and killed others, while driving a boat recklessly while coked up.
I am saying that I find it interesting that you are mourning a coked up Cuban who died, and killed others, while driving a boat recklessly while coked up.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
quote:That is called the human condition. In relationships, it is always a battle between selfishness and selflessness. We all lose that battle at times. Likely in different ways, thankfully.
I am using my complex brain to realize someone who drives a boat 65mph, while loaded on coke and booze, with a child on the way, likely is a person who is very selfish and makes plenty of decisions in which they center themselves as the most important person.
quote:Then don't glorify him. I have no problem with that. I also don't have a problem with someone appreciating, mourning and honoring the parts of his life that brought joy to them.
I am also being complex by saying, I see no reason to glorify a person I never met, who likely wasnt that great of a person, simply because he is famous with a good infectious smile.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:48 am to PearlJam
quote:I will clarify I dont have a problem with it. I just find it strange, and fake
Then don't glorify him. I have no problem with that. I also don't have a problem with someone appreciating, mourning and honoring the parts of his life that brought joy to them.
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