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re: So Jose Fernandez Was The Coked Up Driver Of The Boat....

Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:31 am to
Posted by nerd guy
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:31 am to
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Some of you are so dense and simple minded, it's hard to see how you function as adults. Not everything is binary, black and white. You can recognize he is at fault and made a terrible decision that cost people their lives, while still recognizing the tragedy that is a talented young man with the world at his fingers dying. It doesn't have to be an either/or between mourning the loss and condemning the wreckless behavior.



Na. Who gives a shite that he died? Sucks for the other two, but they knew the risks. Most people didn't give a damn that he died because most people knew he was under the influence of something.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:31 am to
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I don't know, but he was Cuban and cocaine seems to be a think between Cubans and baseball players. It may have been a one time thing. Not sorry I have no sympathy for someone who made several very stupid decisions with no regard to the safety of others.

If this was some redneck, people would be pissing on his grave



Just fallacy after fallacy in your last 2 posts

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but he was Cuban and cocaine seems to be a think between Cubans and baseball players




Or just for rich young people in general....

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But he was an up and coming player so it's okay.


Who has said his actions were okay?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:32 am
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:32 am to
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How long does it stay in your system? #notacokeheadsoidontknowthesethings


Cocaine stays in urine for only a few days after use unless you're a longtime hardcore addict where it can be up to a couple of weeks. It's gone from saliva and blood in hours but can be found in hair samples for a couple of years.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:33 am
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:33 am to
I didnt really have an opinion of him other than potential great player.. He failed at life in this instance and paid the ultimate price, taking two friends with him but I dont doubt that his friends were along for the ride so to speak..

Maybe it explains it but how can they definitively say he was piloting the boat.. just curious

ETA Answered..
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:39 am
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:35 am to
Ever seen Scarface?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:36 am to
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Ever seen Scarface?



Sure

Ever went to spring break in college?

Ever seen a grown man naked?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:45 am to
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.you can still mourn someone that dies even if they were completely at fault


Idiot.
If Tyreek Jackson of Algiers killed three people while driving drunk, this site aint mourning him or praising him in anyway......
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:46 am to
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He was also going ~65mph. That is hauling serious arse in a boat
Yep. Running 65mph at night while fricked up is a serious POS move by Fernandez.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:55 am to
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If Tyreek Jackson of Algiers killed three people while driving drunk, this site aint mourning him or praising him in anyway......



If he killed 2 people and himself that were partying with him all night, it wouldn't even make the news

So of course being famous and knowing a bit about the man increases the chatter
Posted by AU_251
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:56 am to
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Anyone could make a tragic error in judgment. Being young and rich in Miami makes it even more likely. I don't excuse our condone it, but it isn't hard to see how it could happen. He is responsible for 3 deaths and that is a tragedy.



I like this.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:59 am to
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If Tyreek Jackson of Algiers killed three people while driving drunk, this site aint mourning him or praising him in anyway......



I bet Tyreek Jackson's family and friends are.


Whoever the frick that is.

I know none of us are friends or family of Fernandez but the reality is, people form ties to athletes and celebrities.

Why the frick were people sad when Robin Williams died? Or David Bowie? Or Chris Benoit (PEEEJ!!!!)

Because the formed a bond with them.....if Tyreek Jackson died of suicide, or Cancer, or Murder / Suicide, I'm sure his family and people that had a bond with him would still mourn him.

This really isnt that hard guys.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:00 am to
You don't just do that once either. It's not like this was his first time ever making a horrible decision involving cocaine, alcohol and a vehicle.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:04 am to
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He was also going ~65mph


My word
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95242 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:04 am to
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If he killed 2 people and himself that were partying with him all night, it wouldn't even make the news

Here is what I dont get. Why does everyone only ever care about the outcome, and not the cause? The cause is where the bad decision comes into play.

If a father and son happened to be nigh fishing near the jetties, Fernandez's coked up arse would have ran them right over running at 65mph. All of a sudden, by making the same exact decision as before, we hate him more simply because of the result?

frick that, I am judging Fernandez on his shitty as decisions.

And any man who drives a boat 65mph coked up and drunk while having a wife and kid at home, likely isnt as good of a person as people are leading on.....
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:10 am to
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And any man who drives a boat 65mph coked up and drunk while having a wife and kid at home, likely isnt as good of a person as people are leading on.....
This is what I don't get...making terrible choices doesn't mean the person was a bad person. I can almost guarantee you have driven a car at some point with a BAC higher than the legal limit. Luckily, it appears you haven't been involved in a tragic incident. However, if you were, it wouldn't change the way you had treated everyone in your life up until that point or the things you had accomplished.

You are free to judge Fernandez on his terrible choices, and may be right to do so. It doesn't mean other aspects of his life have to be forgotten or ignored.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:11 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:11 am to
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hard to glorify him at this point
So don't. Nobody cares.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95242 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:13 am to
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This is what I don't get...making terrible choices doesn't mean the person was a bad person. I can almost guarantee you have driven a car at some point with a BAC higher than the legal limit.
Since being an adult, especially since having children, I have not ever driven while loaded on alcohol and coke. And especially havent driven a car at about 125 mpoh while doing so(which is about the equivalent to the speed he was doing on a boat at night)


So no, not everyone has made egregious bad shitty decisions.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95242 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:14 am to
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You are free to judge Fernandez on his terrible choices, and may be right to do so. It doesn't mean other aspects of his life have to be forgotten or ignored.
People go out of there way to make celebrities better people than they were. That is really my only point.

Fernandez seems nothing more that a rich person who thought the were bullet proof and didnt care how it harmed others.


But, since he was famous, we will weep and act like he was christ like. It is a media phenomenon in our society I find interesting.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:15 am to
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This is what I don't get...making terrible choices doesn't mean the person was a bad person. I can almost guarantee you have driven a car at some point with a BAC higher than the legal limit. Luckily, it appears you haven't been involved in a tragic incident. However, if you were, it wouldn't change the way you had treated everyone in your life up until that point or the things you had accomplished.


The guy was high on cocaine, I have been drunk, but no I haven't been high on cocaine much less with a baby on the way, which I have coming right now. So no can't say we've all made the same decisions jose made.
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
3159 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:15 am to
Think of it this way: what if he survived the crash and the others still died?
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