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re: Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter was stealing millions from Shohei to place bets

Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by imAMAZING
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:50 pm to
I think the more realistic story is that Ippei really had 4.5 million in gambling debt and that Ohtani did pay it off for him. Ohtani lawyers saw it and freaked out by their client sending millions to an illegal bookie being investigated by the feds so this was the only possible solution.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145165 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:50 pm to
That's where I'm falling right now
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60155 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:51 pm to
I agree. The media won't just stop asking questions about it though
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145165 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:52 pm to
MLB going all in on making Ohtani give interviews in english
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70906 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:55 pm to
This is how Pete Rose finally gets in the hall... MLB can't afford to ban Ohtani.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70906 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:59 pm to
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@TalkinBaseball_
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Ippei Mizuhara was in the Dodgers dugout during this morning's game in Seoul. After the game he addressed the clubhouse about a story coming out that is "all his fault" and his gambling addiction, per
@TishaESPN
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:00 pm to
They better get their stories straight because if the Feds come calling you don't want to get caught in a lie.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70906 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:01 pm to
Either way, Shohei is an idiot because he either gambled illegally through his interpreter or covered the expenses of his degenerate interpreter not thinking his name would be connected to this.

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The developments this week came as federal investigators are examining the operation run by Southern California bookmaker Mathew Bowyer. The wire-transfer payments were sent from Ohtani's account to an associate of Bowyer's, according to multiple sources and bank data reviewed by ESPN. Multiple sources, including Mizuhara, told ESPN that Ohtani does not gamble, and that the funds covered Mizuhara's losses.

ESPN had reviewed bank information showing Ohtani's name on two $500,000 payments sent last September and October.

While sports betting is legal in nearly 40 states, it remains illegal in California. Government-regulated sportsbooks require bettors to pay up front for their wagers, while illegal bookmakers accept bets on credit.

Sources close to the gambling operation told ESPN that Bowyer dealt directly with Mizuhara, who placed bets on international soccer matches and other sports -- but not baseball -- starting in 2021. A source said Bowyer was aware of the name on the wire transfers but chose not to ask any questions as long as payments came in; however, the source said Bowyer allowed people to believe Ohtani was a client in order to boost business.

This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:06 pm to
Imagine believing this. Dudes taking the fall.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145165 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:07 pm to
Twitter lmao
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Hope he wasn't betting on the Angels to win games because then it's all gone
Posted by Smokedawg
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:09 pm to
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Ippei Mizuhara
How did he get over $4million in debt while only making a couple hundred grand a year, unless it was just credit he used.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70906 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:09 pm to
How to get caught in a lie 101

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Mizuhara told ESPN he met Bowyer at a San Diego poker game in 2021 and started betting with him on credit later that year. He estimated his losses mounted to more than $1 million by the end of 2022 and ballooned from there.

"I'm terrible [at gambling.] Never going to do it again. Never won any money," Mizuhara said. "I mean, I dug myself a hole and it kept on getting bigger, and it meant I had to bet bigger to get out of it and just kept on losing. It's like a snowball effect."

After Ohtani agreed to pay the debts, Mizuhara said on Tuesday, Ohtani logged onto his own computer and sent the wire transfers under Mizuhara's supervision in installments over several months last year. They added "loan" to the description field in the transactions.

"We had to add a description for the wire," Mizuhara said. "I think Matt [Bowyer] might have told me to just put 'loan.' You had to put something."

Asked why Ohtani didn't simply give him the money instead of paying Bowyer's associate directly, Mizuhara said Ohtani didn't trust him with the money.

"He didn't want me to gamble it away," Mizuhara said.

Mizuhara said he told Ohtani he would pay him back.

When an ESPN reporter asked Ohtani's camp about the allegation from Mizuhara that Ohtani was present and helped move the funds and that he was going to be paid back, the spokesman contacted Ohtani's attorneys, who then issued the statement saying he was the victim of a "massive theft."

Mizuhara, though, Wednesday afternoon, walked back much of what he had said late Tuesday, saying Ohtani had no knowledge of his gambling activities, debts or efforts to repay them.

"Obviously, this is all my fault, everything I've done," he said. "I'm ready to face all the consequences."
Posted by ozktgr
North Arkansas
Member since Mar 2020
329 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:15 pm to
Everyone needs to calm down. They put 'loan' in the wire description/memo

Case closed
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10226 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Ohtani might have to mysteriously go play in the nba for awhile and then come back to mlb



Take my upvote!
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:55 pm to
Pete Rose right now..

This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 6:56 pm
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:59 pm to
I refuse to believe any story that doesn’t make Ohtani look like the nicest, innocent guy in the world
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
9686 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Mizuhara, though, Wednesday afternoon, walked back much of what he had said late Tuesday, saying Ohtani had no knowledge of his gambling activities, debts or efforts to repay them.

"Obviously, this is all my fault, everything I've done," he said. "I'm ready to face all the consequences."


Obvious fall guy
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71411 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:09 pm to
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I’m sure it wasn’t like him having 10 mil and it going to 5 mil overnight. I’m sure it was over a period of time and when you have that kind of money it’s easy to get away with it for a while.



Dude it's millions, you'd have to be a complete idiot to not see it on a personal level.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8655 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:21 pm to
"New Balance Bet Shohei" shoes
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36454 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:25 pm to
this is fishy as all hell. like if shohei was legitimately just helping out a friend, then his team has completely botched the presentation of this

so even in the best of scenarios, it's fishy as hell
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