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re: Per Kirby: recruits are getting up to 20k per month to not decommit

Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42118 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:58 am to
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Schools make money off players, players want to be compensated. Only certain schools were allowed/willing to risk paid players.


This is bullshite. I had players at D2 schools that were getting paid. Every team paid, maybe to different degrees, but they were all doing underhanded stuff.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39955 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:02 pm to
Can we please cut the bullshite, make the players employees, and kill collectives?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39955 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:04 pm to
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pay the players! they said the schools are greedy and this should have been done a long time ago! they said these kids DESERVE it! they said sure hope yall enjoy this dystopian hellscape of a sport we're left with now.


They did deserve to be paid, but by the schools. The schools are STILL trying to have their cake and eat it too
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25066 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Can we please cut the bullshite, make the players employees, and kill collectives?


Either that needs to happen, or tell the players and the collectives to go form a minor league. Universities should disassociate themselves once that happens.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5389 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:14 pm to
I think its hilarious that the coach of one of the teams with a NIL budget in the top 5 if not top 3 in the sport is almost constantly complaining about NIL and the portal
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24175 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:14 pm to
Why take a commitment if it's going to cost you $250k to keep him for the next year committed? That seems like a really bad use of funds

So if UGA takes a kid today and he is a 2028 QB, they are going to pay upwards of $700k before he hits campus?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86672 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Our WR coach is exactly why we get those highly rated receivers and as long as he’s there that train isn’t stopping.
Ok well you’re 1 school
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51849 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Also, I think Georgia or any other traditional football power could easily go to a pay for performance model and attract all sort of talent every year from other college teams. Call it the NFL grad school or something.


That's what it is. Big time SEC programs have too much invested to risk it with 18 year old freshmen who may or may not develop.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
499 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:46 pm to
I have a lot of respect for Kirby. While we are on opposites of an in state rivalry, Kirby used what the NCAA turned a blind eye to and built a complete roster at UGA. He took what he learned from Saban and used it to build UGA. The portal and NIL has completely destroyed that model. 4 star bench players portaled out to get starter money elsewhere. Recruits who normally would be easy gets at UGA now being picked off a few at a time. That adds up. So even though the Bama’s and UGA’s still have highly ranked classes the rankings aren’t comparable to years past. And half the class will portal out the first time they get their feelings hurt by a coach or lack perceived playing time.

For schools in the average middle this has been a huge positive course of action that enables them to get players that would never have given them a look in the past. So I totally understand Kirby’s mindset. We’ll see how a good a coach he actually is now that he won’t have the huge talent disparity he is use to having.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
85416 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:13 pm to
MAKE…THEM…SIGN…CONTRACTS…INSTEAD…OF…SCHOLARSHIPS

Institute a hard salary cap per sport

problems solved.

They are no longer student athletes. Stop pretending like they are.

They want to get paid like professional players, then treat them like professional players
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8219 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:29 pm to
College Football ...I member when. Its fricked now
Posted by The Shaqtus
Member since Jun 2015
580 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:09 pm to
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The athletes don’t give a shite about the school. They don’t walk the same halls we did. They don’t chow down next to you in a dining hall. They don’t struggle through a test the same way we did. A huge chunk of football and basketball players aren’t real students. But hell, lets give them some course credits, chef prepared meals, premier training facilities, private academic instruction, constant promotion on social media. It’s great for the game…


That's been going for like 25 years at this point. Don't think NIL has anything to do with it, other than upping the scale
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17011 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:47 pm to
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This is getting out of hand

Wait what part of this is not entirely out of hand at this point?

Zero contracts.
Instant and unlimited eligibility transfers.
Multi million dollar deals.
Hold outs.

It’s completely jumped the shark.
quote:

I hate what this has become……

This
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59952 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:00 pm to
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pay the players! they said
the schools are greedy and this should have been done a long time ago! they said
these kids DESERVE it! they said

sure hope yall enjoy this dystopian hellscape of a sport we're left with now.


The entire reason it's a shite storm now is the the NCAA (which was created by and run by the member schools) fought pay for play tooth and nail and refused to come up w/any kind of plan to set up rules for payment.

The greedy schools are still the major problem here just like they were before NIL. They want to get in on the all money streams but don't want to actually be the people who pay the players who are the reason the money comes in first place. Stop falling for their propaganda blaming the players when they could have easily had all this shite sussed out decades ago had they not been such gigantic babies about the reality of what major CFB and CBB had already become.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19375 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:20 pm to
Pay me to visit your school
Pay me to commit to your school
Pay me to stay to committed to your school
Pay me to sign with your school
Pay me to play regular season games
Pay me more to play in the bowl game
Pay me more to not transfer
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1729 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:26 pm to
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I was told they just wanted to make a little pocket money signing autographs so they could afford to take their girlfriend to Applebee's and shite.


This is what is was supposed to be.

It got out of control along with everything else in the world involving covid and the blm riots... saying the players were slaves and all that, never valuing education only looking for another reason to be a victim for the noble cause. These guys before NIL in the big conferences weren't going hungry... they got everything given to them for free. I blame the NCAA for letting this spiral way out of control. They handled this way wrong and look where we at.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1729 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:28 pm to
Also I can't wait until several of these high earning scholars get in trouble with the IRS and then cry about it not knowing how the real world works... it's only a matter of time.
Posted by Underwood
Member since Dec 2022
539 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:34 pm to
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his is bullshite. I had players at D2 schools that were getting paid. Every team paid, maybe to different degrees, but they were all doing underhanded stuff.


Yeah I know and that’s arguing about semantics but the point remains. There was an imbalance in enforcement and certain schools were willing to give crazy amounts and “cheat” to win. Because thats what it comes down to. It’s legal now and nobody fears repercussion. Get over it.

ETA: the hand-wringing over how this has ruined sports is hilarious. Everyone can see it’s mostly fans of a short list of schools
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39705 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:37 pm to
That is absolutely ridiculous
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