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re: Oregon player called out at home due to malicious contact

Posted on 5/31/25 at 8:40 am to
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35073 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 8:40 am to
The thing that pisses me off the most about the entire play is the catcher didn’t catch the ball and gets rewarded for failure.

That throw was a dime.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
1317 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 8:41 am to
For those smarter than me, I have three questions:

1 - The throw brought the catcher there, but he missed the ball. In those situations, the where the catcher doesn’t have time to move out of the base path after he misses the ball, is that automatic obstruction? Seems like it clearly is.

2 - Does the rule book state that the runner must slide? If so, then I could at least understand “malicious intent” if he didn’t slide and initiated contact (although it wasn’t malicious at all).

3 - If they rules both obstruction (which was clearly the case) and malicious intent, what happens now?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 8:42 am to
Do you know how hard it would be to sync that many bowel movements
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108282 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Outrageous call but frick Oregon, so it’s all good


This is why I am conflicted.

Totally botched in every way, but frick Oregon
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86925 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 8:45 am to
Why do we hate Oregon?
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
33860 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Stonehog, thoughts?


Bad angle, if you follow the baseline the only thing “blocking” the plate is the catcher’s foot.

Also in that shot you can see the runner already diving at the catcher with his whole body. Could have easily gone around him and scored. He wanted to tackle the catcher, hence the malicious intent call.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Bad angle, if you follow the baseline the only thing “blocking” the plate is the catcher’s foot.


Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39502 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:17 am to
Lost 6-5 too? Yikes. What an insanely bad call. Definitely need to protest.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3310 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:26 am to
Just like the WWNFLOL where you have to give the QB a pillow and blanket before sacking him. I've just about concluded that sports and all who are in charge of them are stupid.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3310 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:28 am to
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These umpires are idiots.


That is a requirement to be an umpire. You also have to have a Napoleon Complex.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32858 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:28 am to
Rule is pretty clear
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42920 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:29 am to
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You have to fire whenever made that replay review immediately
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2463 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:30 am to
I’m actually impressed with the crowd for that game. I didn’t think anybody on the West Coast actually cared about baseball anymore.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32919 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:40 am to
quote:

There is zero argument it wasn’t obstruction. Zero. None.


agreed. You can't even argue that he just hadn't caught the ball yet but was going to. He couldn't have reasonably THOUGHT he could still get his glove on the ball.
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2156 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:08 am to
That’s one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen, especially when you factor in the moment.. that’s a game tying run in the 9th.. not even hyperbole, that’s one of the worst calls ever.
Posted by GeauxOn
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
286 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:12 am to
For those that didn't watch the game, Utah Valley challenged a play an inning or two earlier for the Oregon catcher obstructing the plate at a play at home. Umps ruled no obstruction when the catcher was probably obstructing more than the Utah Valley catcher was in this play.
I know it shouldn't impact this review, but Im not so sure it didn't play a role in them not calling obstruction on this play.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7459 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:12 am to
That used to be known as a hard-nosed baseball play.

We have become so soft.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28738 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Rule is pretty clear



Nobody is looking at the entire rule, which negates obstruction if the catcher is attempting to make a play on the ball.

quote:

Rule 8-7-c states “unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the
pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score… Notwithstanding the above, it shall not be
considered a violation if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in a legitimate attempt to
field the throw
.”


He attempted to make a play on the ball. He missed, but he made an attempt.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44428 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Notwithstanding the above, it shall not be
considered a violation if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in a legitimate attempt to
field the throw.


Well that destroys all of pride's arguments
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:41 am to
quote:

He attempted to make a play on the ball. He missed, but he made an attempt.
Go watch the play

He is standing in front of the plate before the throw is ever made You can only legally go up the line if the throw forces you there. It didn’t. He established himself in front of the plate on his own. Not because of the throw

He actually had a better chance to catch it if he wasn’t so far up the line
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 10:45 am
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