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re: Kansas/Kansas St Fight

Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:51 am to
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I was always told as a player, if a guy wants to score punk basket at end of game to just let it go. Nothing good comes from fighting at that point and if we played them again we would make up for that at that time. You don't be a bitch like KU player was in this case.


KU player got his feelings hurt when the guy stole the ball.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61784 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:52 am to
K State bench got their feelings hurt when the KU player blocked the shot
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21117 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Lsu’s Javonte Smart got a similar technical foul at Ole Miss 5 days ago, there was no fight.


Hahahaha. Seriously? Getting in someone’s ear after draining a shot is NOT the same as walking over someone and standing over them. Not even in the same ballpark.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:56 am to
I don't know how anyone who has ever watched sports in his life could think what DeSousa did after the block wouldn't end in pushing and shoving.

Thinking otherwise is like being baffled about why an argument started after you flipped someone off and called his wife a *****. When you do something like that, you know the endgame.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:


I was always told as a player, if a guy wants to score punk basket at end of game to just let it go. Nothing good comes from fighting at that point and if we played them again we would make up for that at that time. You don't be a bitch like KU player was in this case.
Exactly.

Apparently, that is just too hard of a concept for some people.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

KU player got his feelings hurt when the guy stole the ball.


more like annoyed that the KSU player didn't take their beating like a man and accept the mercy dribble out

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61784 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Getting in someone’s ear after draining a shot is NOT the same as walking over someone and standing over them. Not even in the same ballpark.


Both received a technical foul. Javonte may have even bumped the guy.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61784 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:01 am to
Have any of y’all noticed in the original wide camera shot that a K State player on the floor throws his arms up in the air when his teammate stole the ball and was motioning for him to not shoot it?

Every player on that floor except for 1 knew it was the wrong move to steal the ball and try to score there.
Posted by audodger
Member since Jun 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:25 am to
Has anyone posted Jomboy's breakdown of this yet? He points out a lady in the crowd that's petting the players heads during the brawl.

LINK
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:26 am to
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Couldn’t have come at a better time for us seeing as we play them next



Yep. You may get the day off. The entire team was ejected.


Well, maybe not the entire team, but everyone except the 10 not on the court was ejected for leaving the bench area and certainly DeSouza.

Who knows? Stranger things have happened, but Tennessee @ Kansas is a big ESPN game. It would take some balls for the NCAA or Big 12 to cause Kansas to have to forfeit that game or play with a bunch of walkons. K State @ Alabama is on ESPN 2, and then you'd get into K State having to compensate Alabama for a lost home game.

As far as the game not being over, technically, (a) there was time left on the clock when the ball went out of bounds, and (b) no game is ever over until the referee certifies the final score at the scorer's table. The very first situation in the NCAA case book under officials and their duties explicitly gives them the authority to call technical fouls and eject players and coaches clearly after the game-ending horn and time expiring.

And it's the responsibility of the head coaches to make sure that coaching staff, players, and everyone on the bench know that and that they control the bench. Period. End of discussion.

NCAA case book
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:34 am to
quote:

As far as the game not being over, technically, (a) there was time left on the clock when the ball went out of bounds, and (b) no game is ever over until the referee certifies the final score at the scorer's table. 


Yeah, but on the court the clock ran out and the buzzer sounded. Like was discussed earlier, the players probably wouldn't have known the game wasn't over until the refs put 0.1 back on after the fact.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:42 am to
quote:

As far as the game not being over, technically, (a) there was time left on the clock when the ball went out of bounds, and (b) no game is ever over until the referee certifies the final score at the scorer's table. 


Yeah, but on the court the clock ran out and the buzzer sounded. Like was discussed earlier, the players probably wouldn't have known the game wasn't over until the refs put 0.1 back on after the fact.


Sure, I get that, but as I pointed out, that falls on the head coach and coaching staff to make sure that they do. It's a pretty simple and basic conversation that every head coach is expected to have with his team. "They thought the game was over" will not factor one iota into the conference's or NCAA's decision.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:44 am
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:05 pm to
It was a hard foul... Dude blocked the ball and his body kept going all the way through him. Dude is lucky his head didn't bounce in the floor.

Bill self is an embarrassment to the basketball community. Anyone defending him or desouza needs to pray to God for guidance and reevaluate their life
Posted by TigerDoug
Lees Summit
Member since Mar 2017
586 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:06 pm to
Dipstick. Definitely a foul on the play. You can even see #5 hitting the right arm of the K State player.
Idiot
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33448 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Or because his analysis is not "spot on"
please tell me where hes wrong
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44816 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
De Souza just got an indefinite suspension
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57469 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:23 pm to
He gone.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95071 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:31 pm to
Winter is coming for Kansas
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:36 pm to
The longest suspension given during the Cincy-Xavier fight was 6 games. Take that for what it’s worth.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95071 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:37 pm to
Did one of those guys pick up a stool as an older handicapped lady grabbed his leg while crying?
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