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How legit was the movie Moneyball

Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted by West Palm Tiger561
Palm Beach County
Member since Dec 2018
1526 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:40 pm
I very much enjoyed the film, but looking into it after the fact, it seems a little misleading. The movie portrays Billie Beane and his assistant as analytic geniuses with the way they pool together rag tag players to form a championship team. Players like Hatteberg, Giambi, and old David Justice are the spot lighted players, however the film conveniently leaves out the fact that the 2002 A's had one of the greatest rotations of all time, and had 3 studs in Tejada, Chavez, and Dye. Not saying Beane's method is full of shite, but it seems like there is way more to that story.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:42 pm to
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Not saying Beane's method is full of shite, but it seems like there is way more to that story.


I, for one, am shocked Hollywood has embelished the truth here.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7036 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:43 pm to
Hudson
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Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:47 pm to
They should do a movie about the Rays. Consistently one of the best teams in the AL, on a shoestring budget
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek
Member since Jul 2020
4650 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:47 pm to
Farhan Zaidi will soon lose his moneyball credit.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
28922 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:01 pm to
Tejada won the MVP that year, no?

Yes Hatteburg, Giambi, Bradford, and Justice were great finds, but Tejada winning MVP, Chavez who was a borderline All Star, Dye who was good, and the best rotation in baseball, they were still stacked.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17207 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:04 pm to
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They should do a movie about the Rays


The Rookie
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65489 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:05 pm to
Go read the Michael Lewis book instead of watching the movie

It is one of the best sports books if not the best you will ever read
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1278 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:18 pm to
Moneyball was about a draft where they had a boatload of high picks and Beane thought he was smarter than everyone else with his system…almost all the A’s picks sucked and the players he laughed at for other teams picking (kazmir for example) were pretty good. Furthermore, the team he assembled this year may be the worst of all time.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:25 pm to
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Hudson Zito Mulder


I don’t think the movie even mentions most of the great players the team had. That pitching staff was great that season. Billy Koch was a great closer as well.

It’s a good movie if you don’t remember anything about the early 2000s A’s.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14034 posts
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:32 pm to
Moneyball is a good movie. It gets a bit overrated but still I found it pretty entertaining.

Billy Beane IRL is a fricking terrible GM. That organization is a joke most of the time
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25412 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 12:24 am to
The rotation is what made that team and it wasn’t even mentioned in the movie
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31893 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:16 am to
The Rays are unlucky in that the guy who wrote a book about their system ended go beating his wife multiple times, threatened to kill her, and is now in prison for a 2 year sentence.

No one will want to adapt his book.

On the other hand, the A’s got arguably the biggest nonfiction writer in the country.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 1:17 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47477 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:26 am to
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It’s a good movie if you don’t remember anything about the early 2000s A’s.


The whole point was he had to assemble it on a budget that was nowhere near the Yankees or Red Sox. It shouldn’t have happened, but it did
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 2:28 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 5:48 am to
My opinion is that it was too over the top in Beane acting like a coach/manager. The scenes with his scouting dept? Talking down to all those old guys who he’d worked with in a meeting? Nah. You sit all those guys down and explain the plan beforehand. They’d probably all read the book talked about in Moneyball. But to sit in that room and shite on each one of those guys? No way.

The clubhouse scene where he throws a bat and destroys a radio? No coach or manager walks in? “WTF are you doing?”

Clashing with Art Howe all the time? Nope. Again you sit that guy down. Tell him your plans. Instead of a fight with every move you plan to make. And telling him how play his players? IRL fists would have flown.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71334 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:00 am to
Best part was, his draft that year was pathetic. He has complained publicly that he wasn't allowed to draft Kevin Youkilis.

Beane is a good GM, but people for some reason think he's a god.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12294 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:39 am to
It’s a movie but billy beane ushered in a new era of analytics that’s been copied and reworked since… he didn’t invent the method but was a great fit for small
Market low payroll clubs.

Billy in coordination with his scouting department was sable to build a strong farm system that filled the club with cheap talent

In the book Jonah hill is a couple different real people wrapped up into one for the movie…many ending around the league as known GMs
Posted by St Jean The Baptiste
Laredo, TX
Member since Aug 2015
5828 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:43 am to
The movie came out in 2011, but I didn’t watch it until 2020, and I find myself wanting to watch this movie once every three months. Not only is this my favorite sports movie, this is my favorite movie, period.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7767 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:55 am to
Beane was the smartest guy in the room. Just ask him. But don’t mind those postseason failures because they were unlucky, according to Beane.

There is an element of luck in the postseason but to attribute all of your failures to that is typical of people who think they’re the smartest people around. Failures are never their fault.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 8:59 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145062 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:03 am to
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Billy Beane IRL is a fricking terrible GM.
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