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How legit was the movie Moneyball
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:40 pm
I very much enjoyed the film, but looking into it after the fact, it seems a little misleading. The movie portrays Billie Beane and his assistant as analytic geniuses with the way they pool together rag tag players to form a championship team. Players like Hatteberg, Giambi, and old David Justice are the spot lighted players, however the film conveniently leaves out the fact that the 2002 A's had one of the greatest rotations of all time, and had 3 studs in Tejada, Chavez, and Dye. Not saying Beane's method is full of shite, but it seems like there is way more to that story.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:42 pm to West Palm Tiger561
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Not saying Beane's method is full of shite, but it seems like there is way more to that story.
I, for one, am shocked Hollywood has embelished the truth here.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:43 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Hudson
Zito
Mulder
Zito
Mulder
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:47 pm to West Palm Tiger561
They should do a movie about the Rays. Consistently one of the best teams in the AL, on a shoestring budget
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:47 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Farhan Zaidi will soon lose his moneyball credit.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:01 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Tejada won the MVP that year, no?
Yes Hatteburg, Giambi, Bradford, and Justice were great finds, but Tejada winning MVP, Chavez who was a borderline All Star, Dye who was good, and the best rotation in baseball, they were still stacked.
Yes Hatteburg, Giambi, Bradford, and Justice were great finds, but Tejada winning MVP, Chavez who was a borderline All Star, Dye who was good, and the best rotation in baseball, they were still stacked.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:04 pm to RidiculousHype
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They should do a movie about the Rays
The Rookie
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:05 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Go read the Michael Lewis book instead of watching the movie
It is one of the best sports books if not the best you will ever read
It is one of the best sports books if not the best you will ever read
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:18 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Moneyball was about a draft where they had a boatload of high picks and Beane thought he was smarter than everyone else with his system…almost all the A’s picks sucked and the players he laughed at for other teams picking (kazmir for example) were pretty good. Furthermore, the team he assembled this year may be the worst of all time.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:25 pm to Dubosed
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Hudson Zito Mulder
I don’t think the movie even mentions most of the great players the team had. That pitching staff was great that season. Billy Koch was a great closer as well.
It’s a good movie if you don’t remember anything about the early 2000s A’s.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:32 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Moneyball is a good movie. It gets a bit overrated but still I found it pretty entertaining.
Billy Beane IRL is a fricking terrible GM. That organization is a joke most of the time
Billy Beane IRL is a fricking terrible GM. That organization is a joke most of the time
Posted on 4/16/23 at 12:24 am to West Palm Tiger561
The rotation is what made that team and it wasn’t even mentioned in the movie
Posted on 4/16/23 at 1:16 am to RidiculousHype
The Rays are unlucky in that the guy who wrote a book about their system ended go beating his wife multiple times, threatened to kill her, and is now in prison for a 2 year sentence.
No one will want to adapt his book.
On the other hand, the A’s got arguably the biggest nonfiction writer in the country.
No one will want to adapt his book.
On the other hand, the A’s got arguably the biggest nonfiction writer in the country.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 1:17 am
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:26 am to T
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It’s a good movie if you don’t remember anything about the early 2000s A’s.
The whole point was he had to assemble it on a budget that was nowhere near the Yankees or Red Sox. It shouldn’t have happened, but it did
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 2:28 am
Posted on 4/16/23 at 5:48 am to West Palm Tiger561
My opinion is that it was too over the top in Beane acting like a coach/manager. The scenes with his scouting dept? Talking down to all those old guys who he’d worked with in a meeting? Nah. You sit all those guys down and explain the plan beforehand. They’d probably all read the book talked about in Moneyball. But to sit in that room and shite on each one of those guys? No way.
The clubhouse scene where he throws a bat and destroys a radio? No coach or manager walks in? “WTF are you doing?”
Clashing with Art Howe all the time? Nope. Again you sit that guy down. Tell him your plans. Instead of a fight with every move you plan to make. And telling him how play his players? IRL fists would have flown.
The clubhouse scene where he throws a bat and destroys a radio? No coach or manager walks in? “WTF are you doing?”
Clashing with Art Howe all the time? Nope. Again you sit that guy down. Tell him your plans. Instead of a fight with every move you plan to make. And telling him how play his players? IRL fists would have flown.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:00 am to West Palm Tiger561
Best part was, his draft that year was pathetic. He has complained publicly that he wasn't allowed to draft Kevin Youkilis.
Beane is a good GM, but people for some reason think he's a god.
Beane is a good GM, but people for some reason think he's a god.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:39 am to West Palm Tiger561
It’s a movie but billy beane ushered in a new era of analytics that’s been copied and reworked since… he didn’t invent the method but was a great fit for small
Market low payroll clubs.
Billy in coordination with his scouting department was sable to build a strong farm system that filled the club with cheap talent
In the book Jonah hill is a couple different real people wrapped up into one for the movie…many ending around the league as known GMs
Market low payroll clubs.
Billy in coordination with his scouting department was sable to build a strong farm system that filled the club with cheap talent
In the book Jonah hill is a couple different real people wrapped up into one for the movie…many ending around the league as known GMs
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:43 am to West Palm Tiger561
The movie came out in 2011, but I didn’t watch it until 2020, and I find myself wanting to watch this movie once every three months. Not only is this my favorite sports movie, this is my favorite movie, period.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:55 am to St Jean The Baptiste
Beane was the smartest guy in the room. Just ask him. But don’t mind those postseason failures because they were unlucky, according to Beane.
There is an element of luck in the postseason but to attribute all of your failures to that is typical of people who think they’re the smartest people around. Failures are never their fault.
There is an element of luck in the postseason but to attribute all of your failures to that is typical of people who think they’re the smartest people around. Failures are never their fault.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:03 am to TulaneFan
quote:alright
Billy Beane IRL is a fricking terrible GM.
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