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re: Deadspin to Jackie MacMullan: Kyrie Irving and Black NBA players aren't anybody's property

Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by floyd of pink
Metry
Member since Nov 2011
3335 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:25 pm to
I don’t watch basketball ever. Thank you for reminding me why I have zero interest in this piece of shite league.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30639 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:31 pm to
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Players should be able to go wherever they want to go. We’re not someone’s property.


What is this dipshit gonna do when 80 players want to be on the Lakers?
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
7341 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:32 pm to
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I don’t watch basketball ever. Thank you for reminding me why I have zero interest in this piece of shite league.


Hopefully enough people realize this, and stop watching or attending this piece of shite, worthless league.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112968 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:37 pm to
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I completely forgot about Draymond Greens dumbass woke comment about owners.

The moment that story came out, I posted on MSB a screenshot of Draymond's twitter profile where he specifically says he is the "Owner" of a business.

Just went out and checked, 3 or 4 years later, it's still their in his Twitter profile.


As for the OP, I was listening to that pod with Simmons and Russillo, and the moment Jackie Mac said that I knew it wasn't going to go over well.

I have no clue how she let something like that slip.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36702 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:38 pm to
I would frickING love to have a debate with that writer.

These liberal fricks LOVE unions and all forms of organized labor, yet they want to rail against a system that is voted on and approved by a labor union over and over again for decades.

If Kyrie wants to get rid of the draft, he needs to get with his union.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178400 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:38 pm to
This is what happens now that almost everyone who writes about sports isn’t a sportswriter and doesn’t care about sports.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41950 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:38 pm to
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Players should be able to go wherever they want to go. We’re not someone’s property.


They may not be anyone's property, but the labor they sell is. They can go wherever they want. There is nothing stopping any player form going anywhere they want. They just can't use their labor wherever they want. That is an asset of the company franchise they are currently under contract with.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86792 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:43 pm to
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As for the OP, I was listening to that pod with Simmons and Russillo, and the moment Jackie Mac said that I knew it wasn't going to go over well.



I'm so out of touch with the woke crowd (this goes for the woke right as well)

I listen or watch things all the time and don't think anything of it, and then I get on the internet and people are freaking out about it

I listened to the podcast as well (I pretty much listen to anything with Russillo) and Jackie's comments didn't even register with me

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151205 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:47 pm to
I just listened to it after this. It doesn't read great out of context but you get what she means more when you actually listen to it
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112968 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:51 pm to
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I just listened to it after this. It doesn't read great out of context but you get what she means more when you actually listen to it

Yep

I'm real big on intent, and it seems obvious enough what her intent was there
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86792 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:52 pm to
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It doesn't read great out of context but you get what she means more when you actually listen to it



pretty much the rule for most quotes people get mad about on the internet
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70382 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:52 pm to
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This is what happens now that almost everyone who writes about sports isn’t a sportswriter and doesn’t care about sports.

I'm not the biggest Portnoy fan in the world, but this rant was great. That's basically what he said about the Deadspin crew.
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Posted by Gumbojet
Member since Jan 2021
162 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:53 pm to
The nba players are to stupid to realize they aren’t the property of the owners they are the employees. They are the same as hot dog venders
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37474 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:54 pm to
What a mansplaining a-hole. That’s how this works right?
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:57 pm to
Love Portnoy dude is MAGA AF and hangs with DJT2 on the reg
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31277 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:57 pm to
Anyone who is under an employment contract of some sort is the "property" of their employer. They own your time, your services, your labor, your output, you name it. Don't want to be "owned" then don't sign a contract, find some other way to make money. Don't join the military, though, wouldn't want to be government issue. It's amazing to me that these pampered fricksticks have deluded themselves into thinking that they are essential in any way. You are entertainment, nothing more. The fans owe you nothing, least of all that you be taken seriously.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105310 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:03 pm to
If Kyrie had skipped the draft and managed to be a FA, he would be making far less than he got paid due to the rookie scale and would still be subject to the same contract limitations that he was now.

If he has a problem with it, he should complain to guys like Chris Paul and LeBron who run the NBAPA, who negotiated and signed the deal for players to do that.

Jesus fricking Christ, Deadspin is full of political twits who know frick-all about sports.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69291 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:08 pm to
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We call our team owners ‘governors’


We use a word with a different meaning to describe what they really are
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105310 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:09 pm to
The Lakers will cut a deal with two other teams like the Pels and Hornets to be their “D League” affiliate for the NBA.

Kind of like what the Yankees used to do by having the KC Athletics act as a de facto farm team for them as well as a Siberia for players like Billy Martin who caused too many problems.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32411 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:09 pm to
Draft creates an even balanced league.

He chose to sign the 2nd contract.
He chose to sign with Brooklyn.

Wanna see a league without a draft? That 30 team league is gonna become 8 and you won't be paid the MILLIONS. Because if nobody chose to play for the new Orleans, Atlanta, Milwaukee, San Antonio etc and only want to go to the miami, LA Lakers, Boston, etc you won't get anybody to support those smaller shitty markets. That's what would happen.
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