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re: Could Houston or DFW support a second pro sports franchise in the same league?

Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:54 pm to
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It would seem silly to me to have a second team anywhere other than NYC and LA, and even in those towns I think it’s debatable whether or not the team that plays second fiddle would be better off elsewhere.


The Chargers would be better off elsewhere for sure.
Posted by chinese58
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:20 pm to
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DFW area sucks as a baseball town.


About the same attendance as Houston when both have bad years.

2026 MLB attendance figures:

RK TEAM GMS TOTAL AVG
14 Houston 60 1,842,077 30,701
15 Texas 59 1,783,616 30,230

https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance

Both do better than "Baseball towns" like Detroit, St. Louis and Cincy.

ETA:
Both Texas and Houston would be better off in separate leagues. It sucks that MLB let the Brewers move to the NL and made Houston and Dallas play in the same division. I grew up in Louisiana pulling for the Astros. Moved to Dallas in 1983 and became a Ranger fan. Always pulled for the Astos to win the NL, but would have pulled for the Rangers if they had ever played. I puled for the Cowboys except when they played the Saints. It was good for business when the Cowboys won. Everyone in town was in a better mood on Monday morning when the Cowboys won.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Dfw probably could, one in Dallas and one in Fort Worth.
The Cowboys and Rangers already play halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth.

I dont’t think Fort Worth could support an expansion NHL or NBA team though. Too many people are already lifelong Stars and Mavs fans and aren’t going to suddenly change allegiances.
Posted by Gnash
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:25 pm to
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DFW easily could and should.

I don’t see it. Cowboys and Rangers are smack in between Dallas and FW. Stars and Mavs are both moving closer to the northern suburbs. Frisco already has minor league baseball and G League. Idk where you’d put a franchise.

The pro leagues would add Austin or SA before a 2nd franchise in Houston or DFW.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:44 pm to
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which league? I don't see it


I think if you put an NFL team in Dallas proper it would gain a lot of fans b/c of people are sick of Jerry.

NFL is the only league you could get the city council and populace behind b/c it would let them redo the Cotton Bowl and help stave off attempts to steal away the state fair and Texas/OU.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 1:45 pm
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
872 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:53 pm to
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Could Houston or DFW support a second pro sports franchise in the same league?


No, we don't want them.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:56 pm to
No. There's only so many Mexicans to go around
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Could Houston or DFW support a second pro sports franchise in the same league?


Houston will absolutely support the NHL.
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
9593 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:01 pm to
Houston should get a second baseball team that doesn’t cheat.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:15 pm to
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I think they would really struggle to gain support if it were a new franchise



What if the Oilers came back?
Posted by UFFan
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Member since Aug 2016
4270 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:23 pm to
Nope.

The NFL’s return to LA has been a flop for in case you’re not aware.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7672 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:56 pm to
MLB in Collin County would do well, Frisco Double A could move elsewhere in metro or Texas.
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 3:24 pm to
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This. Whole concept is a relic of the past IMO. Especially now that the money is in TV, not the gate.



The older franchises also developed before the era of modern publicly-financed palaces. It takes so much cooperation between city, county, and state officials to get a stadium deal done now that it's hard to imagine any metro outside of NY & LA ever wanting to jack w/ multiple teams in the same league.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12795 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:46 pm to
It wouldn’t work in DFW. What’s the point of Arlington if it’s not housing the Cowboys and Rangers?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:49 am to
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What’s the point of Arlington if it’s not housing the Cowboys and Rangers?


Six Flags and Hurricane Harbor
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Member since Jun 2004
198994 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:31 am to
yankees should get an OF who can catch
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:47 am to
It would depend on growth of the cities:
Houston traffic keeps a lot of west and north citizens from driving south of the city or even downtown. I remember going to downtown for theater and several operas. At one, someone came out and announced they were contemplating starting an hour later because of traffic. The audience booed because that would mean driving home after 11 pm, and hour drive, and then getting up at 5am to commute before the traffic backed up.

Put a stadium north or north west and outside of Harris County, and it just might work.

Dallas: again build for where future growth will be.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:59 pm to
Numerically yes. Both metro areas are more than double the size of Tampa, KC, Denver, or the entire AFC North.

Realistically, no. The second team would be a permanent afterthought and wouldn't be able to pull fans away from the established team.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
26252 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:07 pm to
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Dfw probably could, one in Dallas and one in Fort Worth.


Well Dallas is about to have no teams.

Arlington is smack dab between

At this rate the next North Texas pro team will be professional cricket
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:13 pm to
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At this rate the next North Texas pro team will be professional cricket


Texas Super Kings have been around for 3 years and have a stadium in Grand Prairie
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