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re: Bill Belichick is not a first ballot hall of famer
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:44 am to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:44 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Combination of a bad record pre and post Brady, Brady winning in TB, the cheating allegations, the quick recovery in New England after he left, and the UNC clown show.
You left off:
MAGA AF and doesn't care who knows it
(This is why Peter King and Michael Silver didnt vote for him I guarantee) .
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 9:47 am
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:47 am to TT9
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this stupid argument again? Brady made Belichick, Brady leaves New England and wins in Tampa the next year.
Maybe you guys are too young to remember Brady's first 4-5 years as a starter but he was good top 10 worthy but wasn't the player throwing up 4k yards and 30 TD's. NE was just really solid top to bottom and would beat yo with great defense and exploit whatever weaknesses you had on D. Brady's SB MVP was a joke in 01 that Defense held the greatest show on turf to just 17 points was the star that day. Did Tom even have 150 yards passing that game?
You need a good QB to win a SB. But a good QB can't do it by himself. Those two made each other. Bill was able to put players on the field in positions to cause matchup problems and Tom was the perfect trigger man to put the ball where it needed to be. But 01, 03, and 04 SB seasons were all on the D.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:49 am to The Egg
Now I know for certain the HOF can't be taken seriously. They were already starting to let too many in, watering down the merit. This is a complete joke..
Whether you like what he's turned into or not, whether you think he won with Brady or not, you cannot tell the story of the NFL without Bill Belichik. He is the definition of a first ballot hall of famer. I'd honestly just turn it down if I was him and they reached out next year. He's above that.
Whether you like what he's turned into or not, whether you think he won with Brady or not, you cannot tell the story of the NFL without Bill Belichik. He is the definition of a first ballot hall of famer. I'd honestly just turn it down if I was him and they reached out next year. He's above that.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:50 am to DeoreDX
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You need a good QB to win a SB. But a good QB can't do it by himself. Those two made each other. Bill was able to put players on the field in positions to cause matchup problems and Tom was the perfect trigger man to put the ball where it needed to be. But 01, 03, and 04 SB seasons were all on the D.
Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Dan Morino, Fran Tarkenton and Warren Moon are all in the NFL Hall of Fame without one Super Bowl win. It takes more than a great QB to win six.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:45 am to lsupride87
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Bill is 100% responsible party for the giants SB win over the Bills
He shutdown the K gun offense. Nobody else could do that
Being a Giants fan, I get team related stuff on my X feed. I had a thing come through the other day talking about Bill's game plan for the K gun. Buffalo had scored over 40 and then over 50 points in their two playoff wins. Belichick's game plan was basically to allow Thurman Thomas to rush for over 100 yards and then mash the shite out of Bill's receivers every time a ball came in their direction. Keep the Bills on the ground, eating clock and prevent big scoring plays. It was a great defensive coordinator game plan. I would stop short of giving Belichick 100% credit, however, because it wasn't his team, the head coach was Bill Parcells.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:57 am to Crowknowsbest
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we’re going to knock coaches for having great players, there will be no HOF coaches.
I mean we do… look at Phil Jackson
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:14 am to beauchristopher
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Even if people want to say it was Brady.
So Brady was the beneficiary of cheating. Does this tarnish his image and chances to get in as the first ballot Hall of Famer?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:15 am to chalmetteowl
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I mean we do… look at Phil Jackson
People knock Phil Jackson? He’s considered a top 5ish coach of all time by every ranking I’m seeing on google.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:22 am to Crowknowsbest
Phil Jackson won without MJ. Multiple times actually
Without Phil, MJ never won anything…..
See how dumb this sounds?
Without Phil, MJ never won anything…..
See how dumb this sounds?
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:27 am to chalmetteowl
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mean we do… look at Phil Jackson
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Phil Jackson was a first-ballot inductee into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 2007.
Doesn’t look like he got knocked to me
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:33 am to SirWinston
well Peter King didn't cast a vote this year, so yeah.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:45 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Combination of a bad record pre and post Brady,
He won how many Super Bowls? Played in how many?
Absurd to try and diminish that, because his QB was great.
Maybe it has to do with the cheating allegations, but this is most likely something political against him.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:58 am to lsupride87
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Phil Jackson won without MJ. Multiple times actually
So difficult to got from MJ/Pippen to Kobe/Shaq, lol.
Not even close to the same thing as going from Brady to Mac Jones/Drake Maye.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:02 pm to John Casey
Actually this answer from AI makes a ton of sense and makes it more understandable why he didnt get in..
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Why he didn't get in:
The "Cheating" Factor: Multiple voters, including former GM Bill Polian, reportedly argued that Belichick should "wait a year" as penance for past scandals.
A Broken Voting System: The new 2026 format forced Belichick to compete directly against senior legends (like Roger Craig) and owner Robert Kraft for just three available spots. Voters likely prioritised the older candidates who might not get another chance.
Strategic Voting: Some voters assumed he was a "lock" and used their limited votes on other finalists instead.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:16 pm to SirWinston
The only decent excuse I’ve heard is that the waiting period was recently shortened for coaches from 5 years to one. It’s still a flimsy excuse, but at least there’s some historical context surrounding the reasoning.
So, Belichick will now have to wait two years to get in. Every other coach has had to wait at least five years. He might not have gotten in on the first ballot, but he’ll only wait a fraction of the time compared to any other coach.
So, Belichick will now have to wait two years to get in. Every other coach has had to wait at least five years. He might not have gotten in on the first ballot, but he’ll only wait a fraction of the time compared to any other coach.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:35 pm to bstaceyau19
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Never understood how Jimmy Johnson got in the hall of fame.
He built a perennial loser into pretty much a dynasty from the ground up. What are your qualifications for a coach to make the HOF?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:46 pm to SirWinston
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This is why Peter King and Michael Silver didnt vote for him I guarantee) .
Jeff Duncan too. Worst sportswriter in Louisiana with a serious case of TDS somehow has a vote
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:50 pm to chalmetteowl
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mean we do… look at Phil Jackson
Basketball fans are dumb as rocks though
Phil is easily top 3 NBA coaches all time. But he actually has competition. There is no valid comparison for Belichick in the NFL. He blows everyone else out of the water
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:57 pm to The Egg
Belichick is:
- 6 time SB winning HC
- 6 time SB winning GM (how many can successfully do both?)
- 2nd most total victories by HC
- 9 total Super Bowl appearances as HC
- Throughout his 29-season career as an NFL head coach (including Cleveland and New England), Bill Belichick fielded an elite (top-5) scoring defense approximately 9 to 10 times and a top-10 scoring defense in roughly 16 to 23 seasons, depending on whether measuring by total points or efficiency (points per drive).
- as a DC, won 2 SBs
As a defensive mind he would have a shot at HOF status. No credit for his SBs as HC
As a GM, likely makes HOF within a few ballots
As a HC alone, should have been first ballot HOF
All of the above, absolute lock first ballot
Fire the voters. The list of voters is terrible
- 6 time SB winning HC
- 6 time SB winning GM (how many can successfully do both?)
- 2nd most total victories by HC
- 9 total Super Bowl appearances as HC
- Throughout his 29-season career as an NFL head coach (including Cleveland and New England), Bill Belichick fielded an elite (top-5) scoring defense approximately 9 to 10 times and a top-10 scoring defense in roughly 16 to 23 seasons, depending on whether measuring by total points or efficiency (points per drive).
- as a DC, won 2 SBs
As a defensive mind he would have a shot at HOF status. No credit for his SBs as HC
As a GM, likely makes HOF within a few ballots
As a HC alone, should have been first ballot HOF
All of the above, absolute lock first ballot
Fire the voters. The list of voters is terrible
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:58 pm to Upperdecker
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Jeff Duncan too. Worst s
He hasn’t said a word about it on X. He was definitely one of them
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