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re: Bill Belichick is not a first ballot hall of famer

Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:52 am to
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:52 am to
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this stupid argument again? Brady made Belichick, Brady leaves New England and wins in Tampa the next year.


1st 3 New England Super Bowls due to Belichick.

2nd 3 New England Super Bowls due to Brady.

They both made each other.

Brady got lucky with the Bucs, but he still got another Super Bowl and Belichick didn't after the breakup, but Belichick also got Bill Parcells 2 Super Bowls, so it evens out.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:17 am to
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this stupid argument again?
Stupid? Do you morons really think a teams defense doesn’t matter for winning?

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Posted by TT9
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:28 am to
Never said it didn't matter dumb frick, I brought up the record without Brady and the fact he won a super bowl at Tampa without Bill immediately.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:29 am to
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Never said it didn't matter dumb frick


Dumb frick

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Brady made Bellichick
They made each other. The tom Brady you know with all those rings doesn’t have them if he isn’t on a team with a top defense every year….

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Brady leaves New England and wins in Tampa the next year. Belichick went to shite.
Brady leaves and gets to go to ANOTHER top 10 scoring defense. Bill gets rookie Mac Jones

If Bill got Josh Allen in 2020 as the replacement what do you think happens the next 3 years?
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 7:35 am
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:34 am to
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The tom Brady you know with all those rings doesn’t have them if he isn’t on a team with a top defense every year….
that could be said by almost every QB that has one.

Christ your sports takes are awful.


But Brady has seven and left bill and won and immediately.

Bill is trash without Tom, Tom was fine without Bill.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:35 am to
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that could be said by almost every QB that has one.
No
fricking
shite

Brady’s offensive production was all him

The defense being consistently great was all Bill

TOGETHER that makes for a shite ton of TEAM success
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 7:38 am
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:37 am to
Then why just bring it up to take away from Brady then? He's the goat. He made chicken salad out of chicken shite for what he had to work with on the offensive side of the ball for most of his career.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:38 am to
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Then why just bring it up to take away from Brady then?
It wasn’t you “dumb frick”. You brought it up to take away from Bill and still are As did a few select other dumbasses

Nobody took a shot at Brady moron
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 7:40 am
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:40 am to
Well Tom has proved he can win without Bill.

Bill has a losong record with no Tom.

Bottom line.

Case closed. Now go argue with a wall somewhere you dumb bastard.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 7:42 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:42 am to
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Well Tom has proved he can win without Bill.
Sure. When he picked his team to make sure he got another top defense
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:43 am to
I mean
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:45 am to
I mean what? Ask Brady if he thinks defense is inpeotant for team rings

When you see this what do you think? If you don’t understand the important of Bellichick you don’t know football, at all. Not even at a 3rd grade level

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This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 7:47 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:47 am to
Exactly

My idea here is these GOAT level QBs are going to produce offense with nearly anyone competent.

So offensive coach paired with GOAT level QB that only wins 1 or 2 SBs is cool, but give me GOAT level QB and coach who produces elite defenses more than not.

That’s why I don’t think Bill is overrated. If Bill is overrated, who isn’t?
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41217 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:51 am to
Knew the NFL HOF was on bs back when they wouldn't let TO in but this is even more ridiculous.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24176 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:51 am to
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But Brady has seven and left bill and won and immediately. Bill is trash without Tom, Tom was fine without Bill.

Brady was still an elite QB, bill was left without a QB which is a must to win. Nobody is winning without one.

It may take several years and getting lucky in the draft to hit on one

You’re a clown. By the way, retard, who has more SB victories? Brady or Belichick?
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 7:53 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:53 am to
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Brady was still an elite QB, bill was left without a QB which is a must to win. Nobody is winning without one.
no dude it’s totally legit to expect bill to win a Super Bowl with rookie mac jones
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91550 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:54 am to
We should look into how these coaches got their elite QBs

How may coaches with SBs only have them bc they lucked into an elite QB?

Bill got one and did the most with him.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:56 am to
Belichick should decline the invite next year when he’s elected. Just never accept it to show the political farce that it’s become.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11800 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:57 am to
Seems to be cheating scandals, antagonistic relationship with Kraft, his banging a 24 year old and the fact that purists like Bill Polian take exception to him.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24176 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:58 am to


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no dude it’s totally legit to expect bill to win a Super Bowl with rookie mac jones

I love that they totally dismiss Bill being responsible for the Giants victories also.

I would argue that being DC, architect of a scheme that is in Canton already, on a SB team is equivalent to being a high level player like QB.

Brady will never wear 8 as a coach/player
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