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re: Big TV betting on Consolidation in NCAAF
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:33 pm to SoDakHawk
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:33 pm to SoDakHawk
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BTW, I'm not worried about Iowa getting cut out. By every metric out there it is a historical top 20 program including viewership and revenue. You know who isn't? One of our main rivals in the Minnesota Gophers. That would suck if we lost that rivalry and tradition.
Trophy generation bullshite…you know what, tell Minnesota to start carrying its fricking wait instead of mooching off of Ohio St, Michigan and Penn St and we wouldn’t have had to go and replace their asses with USC and Oregon. I’m beyond excited for the the future of college football…FINALLY…the biggest welfare generation in the history of college football is being reigned in. Start cutting the fat…and there’s alot of fat to cut. Sorry, but if you aren’t earning your keep…you don’t deserve that status.
I feel zero sympathy for Oregon St and Washington St. And the truth is this..we ALL know that on the field, they both belong in the MWC..and long term, having a chance at winning G5/FCS titles is better for them as a program…THATS reality!!! It’s also better for the MWC and the sport.
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:34 pm to Horsemeat
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They're betting on Billy Bob in Arkansas that's a die hard for Alabama fan despite never going to Bama or even stepped foot in the state of Alabama. They are marketing to the dipshits that get their gear from Walmart/Fanatics despite not knowing how to get to the campus' without a gps running. They do not give one single shite about the people who fill the stadiums. They want to make college sports as boring and corporate as possible to appeal to people watching on the tv that couldn't tell you who the head coaches of Bama were between Bryant and Saban. They absolutely do not care about the collateral damage to the other sports or the universities from this because DAMN IT there's a Georgia fan in South Dakota that has got to get that G sticker on his pickup and he's willing to spend $15 for it which means he's willing to buy the cable box with the add-on sports tier to watch the Georgia games and more importantly - the commercials.
FIFY
Legalized gambling is driving this
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:00 pm to SoDakHawk
I think everyone would mourn the loss of Iowa vs Minnesota just after breakfast, in a corn field, on big ten network alternate thru streaming, in a 12-9 game, for a spot in the Dec 28th bowl game at 2pm
That would be a major blow
That would be a major blow
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:10 pm to OleVaught14
Fantastic job by the OP - thank you for sharing. 
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:44 pm to LG2BAMA
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It’s like a quaint little small town that becomes popular and blows up.
It eventually loses all the character and charm that made it a nice place to be in the first place.
That's a pretty good analogy. Lookin' at you, Texas Hill Country.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:54 pm to OleVaught14
Truth is no one give a damn about Oregon st vs Washington game. But if Ohio State was playing Oregon, or USC was playing Penn St people would tune in. Not even talking about casual college football fans here either.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:56 am to lsunatchamp
quote:Maybe for a couple seasons, but what happens once Oregon or Penn State ends up 6th every year? Lest we forget, Nebraska was once a giant in CFB. They can't compete in the Big 10, and now that they're not winning, they can't recruit either. We're talking about an alltime great, that would probably lose to half the Sun Belt teams.
Truth is no one give a damn about Oregon st vs Washington game. But if Ohio State was playing Oregon, or USC was playing Penn St people would tune in. Not even talking about casual college football fans here either.
That's going to happen to some more teams soon.
And in the meantime, some of those who get left out will band together, someone will emerge from that pack as "champ", and start building traction to get into the playoffs.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:14 am to Scoob
Saw an interesting post about how college football is headed towards being like NASCAR where greed and pissing off their core fans ended up destroying the popularity of the sport. It was not that long ago when the Daytona 500 got better ratings than the NBA Finals and not just by a little but by a lot. That would be unthinkable today because of how much NASCAR has fallen.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:25 am to OleVaught14
One flaw I see in Mandell’s comparison is that there are 32 NFL teams vs 130 FBS teams. There may be “millions more” giants fans than Oregon state fans, but throw in 3 more fan bases that go by the way side who are also already watching college football.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 5:44 am to DBG
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That’s the thing, when major CFB is eventually consolidated to ~30 teams, every game will be marquee.
But do those marquee games make up for the lost games from the other fanbases?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:08 am to OleVaught14
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That you'll gain more casual fans who don't follow CFB closely, to offset the smaller fanbases who get left behind and drop off.
Chasing away your core fanbase in favor of a more casual crowd who isn't going to watch anyways is what killed NASCAR, too.
That Giants fan in Queens isn't going to watch USC/Ohio State. That part of the country doesn't give a shite about college football and turning it into a watered down NFL lite isn't going to change that.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 7:29 am
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:12 am to Buckeye Backer
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I’m beyond excited for the the future of college football…FINALLY…the biggest welfare generation in the history of college football is being reigned in. Start cutting the fat…and there’s alot of fat to cut. Sorry, but if you aren’t earning your keep…you don’t deserve that status.
Be careful what you wish for…
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:17 am to OleVaught14
That is so horrible and the antithesis of what college football is about. Killing unique and passionate fan bases in small towns across America so that some fat arse who never cared in suburban New York or LA may tune in after mowing the grass on a Saturday.
I am disgusting by what college football is turning itself into for the almighty dollar.
I am disgusting by what college football is turning itself into for the almighty dollar.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:19 am to jlovel7
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I am disgusting by what college football is turning itself into for the almighty dollar.
I’m just surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:24 am to Buckeye Backer
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you know what, tell Minnesota to start carrying its fricking wait instead of mooching off of Ohio St, Michigan and Penn St
Y’all aren’t even carrying your own weight. Those schools haven’t been relevant for 40+ years. Ohio state hasn’t won a title in almost 10. And it was 10 years before that you won your last. 2 titles in like the last 50 years.
The SEC has boat raced you guys.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:25 am to Scoob
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Maybe for a couple seasons, but what happens once Oregon or Penn State ends up 6th every year? Lest we forget, Nebraska was once a giant in CFB. They can't compete in the Big 10, and now that they're not winning, they can't recruit either. We're talking about an alltime great, that would probably lose to half the Sun Belt teams.
That's going to happen to some more teams soon.
And in the meantime, some of those who get left out will band together, someone will emerge from that pack as "champ", and start building traction to get into the playoffs.
Are you suggesting that if Oregon or Penn State starts going 7-5 or 6-6, they will take an 85 million dollar a year pay cut for the AAC or MAC????? I mean come on...those massive brands arent going anywhere, even if they slip. On the other hand, even if Washington St or Oregon St were to have a stellar year and go 12-0 or 11-1 or even 10-2...those schools aren't drawing the ratings needed to justify their payouts. It's absolutely anti-capitalist to think the media networks should HAVE to bleed out and lose money propping up Washington St and Oregon St just so the PAC can survive as a conference. ANY business in our country cuts dead weight from their business model...and the REALITY is that there is a LOT of dead weight. Next up...looking at you ACC and Wake Forest, BC and Syracuse....
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:29 am to jlovel7
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Y’all aren’t even carrying your own weight. Those schools haven’t been relevant for 40+ years. Ohio state hasn’t won a title in almost 10. And it was 10 years before that you won your last. 2 titles in like the last 50 years.
The SEC has boat raced you guys.
lolololololol Holy smokes...post of the day already. You missed the entire point...figures. Ohio State is THE biggest brand in college sports. The media pays for access to Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State...because of the ratings they draw. They draw those ratings because of a LONG history of WINNING...When was the last time Minnesota or Purdue or Indiana or Illinois brought ANY value to the B1G in football? Ill hang up and wait. The simple FACT, is that these schools have been benefiting from Ohio State with media pay outs and they have done NOTHING to deserve it other than just being in the B1G. Time for these schools to start earning their keep.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:31 am to DBG
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That’s the thing, when major CFB is eventually consolidated to ~30 teams, every game will be marquee.
6-4 Ohio State playing 5-5 USC in November isn't going to be deemed marquee anymore. The big schools stand on the shoulders of the smaller ones. Wins matter. These "marquee" programs roll into November with losing records their games stop being hyped. Only the fans of those teams are left to care and guess what many of them check out then as well.
Also marquee CFB matches are mostly watched by college football fans. If you ostracize ~50% of the field their fans are going to stop caring and watching other games. I'm a WVU alum and fan that likes to watch marquee matchups outside of my team. If WVU stops getting a seat at the table I'll stop watching college football all together.
I would estimate the majority of fans whose favorite teams are the tier 2 teams and below will stop watching games as well if their team doesn't have a seat at the table.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:34 am to WestCoastAg
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I just think there are more casual sport fans who will tune into USC vs Ohio State or Texas vs Alabama than 4th generation Oregon State families who refuse to watch out of spite which is ultimately what TV is betting on
If you’re just talking Oregon state, sure.
But are there more causal fans than Oregon state, Iowa, ole miss, Kentucky, South Carolina, Purdue, etc.. You’re missing the bigger picture just comparing a USC / Alabama game to Oregon state fans protesting.
I just feel like there’s a gross exaggeration on the number of casual college football fans in the northeast compared to the number of diehard fans you’re potentially running off.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:35 am to Buckeye Backer
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lolololololol Holy smokes...post of the day already. You missed the entire point...figures. Ohio State is THE biggest brand in college sports. The media pays for access to Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State...because of the ratings they draw. They draw those ratings because of a LONG history of WINNING...When was the last time Minnesota or Purdue or Indiana or Illinois brought ANY value to the B1G in football? Ill hang up and wait. The simple FACT, is that these schools have been benefiting from Ohio State with media pay outs and they have done NOTHING to deserve it other than just being in the B1G. Time for these schools to start earning their keep.
You guys can have your ratings crown. I’ll take the BCS/CFB trophies…
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 7:36 am
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