re: Big TV betting on Consolidation in NCAAF

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I just think there are more casual sport fans who will tune into USC vs Ohio State or Texas vs Alabama than 4th generation Oregon State families who refuse to watch out of spite which is ultimately what TV is betting on

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i think it's the exact opposite.

I'm not a big nfl fan. I do'nt tune in just b/c the cowboys are playing the giants. I'll tune in on a sunday night b/c i'm home and have nothign else to do now that the weekend is over, but i'm doing something at noon and 3, and i'm not going to sit inside to watch an nfl game in my spare time.

The Oregon State fan is who is going to tune into the big USC-OSU game. The entire SEC, and probably half of the rest of the country is going to watch Ole Miss-Bama if Ole Miss is winning at halftime. An LSU fan is going to watch Penn St Michigan at 3 while they tailgate.
Casual sports fan in New York or LA could give two shits about any of that.
You either watch college football or you don't. The casual fan in regards to watching the big USC/OSU, or LSU/Bama, or Tex/UF, are the fans of other schools that are either interested in the outcome b/c it affects their school, or they simply enjoy good college football atmospheres. backwards hat tatted up bronx guy isn't casually watching a college football game just b/c he wants to see the white out as Penn State tries to beat a top 5 Michigan team. Other college football fans watch it b/c they love the white out, and they love hearing how loud a stadium can get for a big time matchup.

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When was the last time Minnesota or Purdue or Indiana or Illinois brought ANY value to the B1G in football? Ill hang up and wait.

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When was the last time Ohio State did anything worthwhile in basketball, or baseball.
Of course i know the weight that football carries, but there are other sports in college, and without football, those sports don't exist. I"m not a welfare guy either, but i'd prefer to see Oregon State remain a power in baseball. I want to see Kentucky and Kansas stay an elite basketball program. I don't want to lose what's great about college basketball and baseball, b/c a bunch of morons only want to watch the top 30 or so college football teams play and keep all the money and tell all the other schools to go frick themselves.

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When was the last time Ohio State did anything worthwhile in basketball, or baseball.
Of course i know the weight that football carries, but there are other sports in college, and without football, those sports don't exist. I"m not a welfare guy either, but i'd prefer to see Oregon State remain a power in baseball. I want to see Kentucky and Kansas stay an elite basketball program. I don't want to lose what's great about college basketball and baseball, b/c a bunch of morons only want to watch the top 30 or so college football teams play and keep all the money and tell all the other schools to go frick themselves.

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AGAIN...You are missing the ENTIRE point of realignment. The networks, in the grand scheme of things, dont give two flying fricks about basketball or baseball...or these moves wouldnt be happening. FOOTBALL moves the needle...period. So again, when was the last time those schools had any consistent and national relevance? But yet, they are making exactly what Ohio State does because we are a cool big brother to them.

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That’s the thing, when major CFB is eventually consolidated to ~30 teams, every game will be marquee.

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Every game cannot be marquee. Records matter, timing matters. Just look at the nfl that has 10x the fans. Unless it’s prime time cowboys or KC/Buffalo who are both 5-0 the ratings are pretty static.

Alabama vs Texas is only interesting to the casual fan is both teams have something on the line. If Bama is 6-0 and Texas is 2-4 the casual fan is simply not going to watch

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instead of mooching off of Ohio St, Michigan and Penn St and we wouldn’t have had to go and replace their asses with USC and Oregon. I’m beyond excited for the the future of college football…FINALLY…the biggest welfare generation in the history of college football is being reigned in. Start cutting the fat…and there’s alot of fat to cut. Sorry, but if you aren’t earning your keep…you don’t deserve that status. I feel zero sympathy for Oregon St and Washington St. And the truth is this..we ALL know that on the field, they both belong in the MWC..and long term, having a chance at winning G5/FCS titles is better for them as a program…THATS reality!!! It’s also better for the MWC and the sport.

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You should be grateful. Ohio State has spent the last 30 years or longer really, playing teams without a pulse. They helped build your brand as much as anyone else. You should kiss the feet of that shitty arse conference and be happy they get the same amount of tv money. Without them, you’d have hardly any of your conference history.

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AGAIN...You are missing the ENTIRE point of realignment. The networks, in the grand scheme of things, dont give two flying fricks about basketball or baseball...or these moves wouldnt be happening. FOOTBALL moves the needle...period. So again, when was the last time those schools had any consistent and national relevance? But yet, they are making exactly what Ohio State does because we are a cool big brother to them.

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and you are missing the point i'm making. No shite Football moves the needle.
Michigan State needs football money to stay an elite college basketball team. Michigan State football needs Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State to bring in that big tv money. Kentucky basketball needs Alabama and UGA and LSU to bring in that money. College baseball in the SEC has basically become double A baseball b/c of football money.
Football money from the big schools is what is helping make March Madness awesome, and it's bringing college baseball more and more relevance.


what fun do you think college football would be if only USC, OSU, Michigan, PSU, Bama, LSU, UGA, UF, Tex, OU, Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame had all the money? You think Purdue has enough money now to have any chance at upsetting OSU in a football game. DO they have enough money to compete in basketball?



Do you not understand what you are saying? You're basically saying you want to create basically a league of elite college football teams only, without a single frick given to the rest of college football or any other college sport. I don't give a shite about UNC Lacrosse, but i'd prefer they have a team and enjoy success b/c the Clemson/FSU game brought in a ton of money.
You act like OSU is struggling for money. Again, i'm not a fan of wealth sharing, but in this instance, i am, b/c i like the college product outside of just college football and i dont' want to see it go away.

So 100+ years of tradition and rivalries mean absolutely nothing to you. Congratulations, you are exactly the fan these TV execs are courting.

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Sign me up for that conference!!!!

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you realize that they just tried this crap in Europe for soccer, which i would say the fandom in European soccer is very similar to college football, and it was greeted with a resounding frick you from the fans and owners getting protested against enough to try to make them sell the team.

In theory, it sounds cool, but you do realize that if it's just those elite schools, then someone has to be the Kansas of the group every year. You think Ohio State would enjoy going 6-6 and 8-4 most years?

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Sorry, they are LOSING millions funding these programs that dont make any money. Time for a reality check.

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Who's losing millions? Cal? SEC schools aren't losing money.
LSU isn't missing out on money for their athletics.
Mississippi State isn't losing out on money. They built a bad arse baseball stadium b/c of football games like Bama/LSU. I'm happy to help contribute to their baseball stadium. I'm happy to help contribute to Auburns basketball arena. I'm very happy to help contribute to Vandy and USC and Kentucky and Ar-Kansas and MSU and have them become elite college baseball teams, while we continue to kick their arse in football. That one time Kentucky beats us in 15 years is something they'll remember forever. Good for them. That's college football. That's what i want.

I don’t know about that. The reason I say that is that last year, LSU got really good TV numbers all year and nobody knew we’d actually be a contender until we beat Bama.

We all have contributed to this. When SEC fans yell "SEC" "SEC" at the Outback Bowl and the SEC uses that chant and with phrase it just means more it contributes. As an LSU fan I want LSU to win the national championship and be in one of the best conferences and get respect and recognization all around the world. If you are a fan or alumnus of an SEC school you can't complain about poor old Oregon State and yet claim Vandy would go 9-3 in another conference or that Miss. State and Starkville are so important to college football.

Tradition and what made college football so special ended when Roy Kramer added Arkansas and South Carolina so he could have 12 teams and two divisions and have a championship game.

It surely ended when they started the BCS and Bowl Coalition in an attempt to screw over the Rose Bowl and the Big Ten and Pac Ten.

You can pine for the days when the SEC champ played in the Sugar Bowl and the SWC champ played in the Cotton Bowl and the Big 8 champ played in the Orange Bowl and those three bowls worked to get the best at-large team and try to have a national championship game. But so many of us wanted a true national championship and want to brag to our friends about our school.