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re: ADs threaten to "freeze out" ND on future schedules due to playoff favoritism

Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:55 pm to
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The reason the SEC is so powerful and stable is because the top programs appreciate the value of equal membership across its members and they don't publicly whine or destabilize the conference.




If only it were truly equal and certain teams didn't get blatant favoritism in several ways, but sure Bama is an example of a giant willing to sacrifice fully for fairness to the peons.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21459 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:59 pm to
25 years ago, Irish fans were everywhere. The hats, the shirts, the team had a legitimate national fanbase presence. As of today, I can’t think of the last time I ran into a Notre Dame fan. They simply do not have the presence nor do they command the attention of the average CFB. The idea that they somehow deserve preferential treatment because their name when the reality is they are a fragment of their former glory is beyond irritating. Either join a conference or don’t, but STFU with this idea that the rest of the CFB world needs to blow you every time a major decision is made.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10299 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:35 pm to
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If only it were truly equal and certain teams didn't get blatant favoritism in several ways, but sure Bama is an example of a giant willing to sacrifice fully for fairness to the peons.


Whatever gripes y'all might have about the REC putting in work are pretty minor in comparison to how the big dogs treat the smaller ones in most conferences.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29244 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:43 pm to
Good. They should.

frick changing the rules because one program got left out. A program that refused to join a conference.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36597 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:46 pm to
1) Wolken overall is not very credible when it comes to ND, if you know some of his background. Obviously, he probably talked to some ADs that probably will choose to avoid ND. But there are over 130 in FBS and you only need to schedule 12 games. The article is click-baity in general.

2) All the conferences agreed to the MOU a year ago. It is being treated as if this: a) was not previously unanimously agreed upon; and b) is a direct response to Sunday. Neither of those are true.

3) Relatedly, the MOU is now irrelevant. The committee moved Bama ahead of ND after beating 5-7 Auburn by 7, and didn’t move Bama down after losing by 21 to UGA. Had UVA beaten Duke, the committee likely would’ve kept ND in (probably at 9, with Bama at 10) but the ACC needed a team so Miami moved ahead. Point being: The committee will manipulate things as necessary, and if ND is #11 or 12, the committee will just move ND to #13 to get #10 in, if needed. (I think when Bevacqua agreed to it, he didn’t see something like that happening. Now it’s obvious that would happen, so he should back out of the MOU, in my opinion.)

4) In general, the conferences don’t want ND to join a conference unless it’s theirs. This is why, at a conference level, you won’t see a conference prohibit teams from scheduling ND. Again, a minority of athletic directors might choose not to.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11981 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:55 pm to
Couldn't happen to a better school
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:03 pm to
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If they lead the charge to get other teams to break out of conference chokeholds and out from under a useless NCAA, then they may be on to something - formation of a super league of 32 teams and run it similar to the NFL in terms of divisions, a front office, and an overall commissioner.

They’ll do this and then choose not to be a part of it?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:06 pm to
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Relatedly, the MOU is now irrelevant.

It was already irrelevant because the committee still hasn’t decided on the “rules” of the playoff next season. It was never an “official” thing. The committee has until January 23rd to decide on the new rules, and I doubt that the ND auto-qualification thing will be part of the official rules.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4629 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:09 pm to
I’ve said this a million times before and I’ll say it again: Notre Dame is the definition of an elitist school with an elitist fanbase. They are, in every way, as bad if not worst than Harvard when it comes to classism/elitism. All you have to do is look at the average family income statistics of students that attend ND.

My personal tin-foil hat theory for why they’ve been revered for so long by the big media conglomerates is because they’ve always had a huge alumni presence in those companies. For decades, their alumni managed to take up executive positions at companies like ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. As a result of being in higher-up positions, they wanted these companies to make journalistic pieces about “how great Notre Dame is”.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:18 pm to
they still have the boomers, as dwindling as it gets, they still do have them left
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54852 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:26 pm to
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We need to go to Josh Pate's 7 Power conferences with 10 teams each.


There aren’t 70 power teams
Posted by Clashmore Mike
Member since Oct 2014
1133 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:28 pm to
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I’ve said this a million times before and I’ll say it again: Notre Dame is the definition of an elitist school with an elitist fanbase. They are, in every way, as bad if not worst than Harvard when it comes to classism/elitism.


From Notre Dame:

The University of Notre Dame's student aid philosophy centers on providing a Catholic, values-based education to all deserving students, meeting 100% of demonstrated financial need for undergraduates through grants and scholarships (not loans) via its Pathways to Notre Dame program, ensuring affordability regardless of background, and[ maintaining a need-blind policy for all applicants, including internationals, to focus on merit and potential, not money.

On Notre Dame's webpage they note that 70% of undergraduates receive some form of financial aid with $64,200 being the median need-based scholarship awarded to incoming first-year students. In other words, if you can get admitted you will be able to afford Notre Dame.

Notre Dame is able to do this because it has a very high endowment of $16.62 billion and a total Undergraduate enrollment of only 8,800 students. Admission to Notre Dame is Highly Selective and applicants require high test scores, high achievement in High School and involvement in extra-curricular activities are important (student government, involvement in sports, volunteer activities, etc.).

If that makes Notre Dame "Elitist", well so be it.........

This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 7:59 pm
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3970 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 9:00 pm to
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Geauxgurt

Cry more bitch
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 9:19 pm to
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There aren’t 70 power teams


There are 67. You add the 2 P12 teams and ND. 70.
Posted by slobhorn
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2023
163 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 12:23 am to
His comment on “one of the most dominant 10-game streaks in college football history” is one of the most delusional statements ever, regardless of topic, and is a good window into the way that a LOT of ND fans still view their program. Without even doing research I could name at least 50 more impressive 10-game winning streaks in college football history.
Posted by slobhorn
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2023
163 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 12:29 am to
Should already be a Harvard Business School case study in the works on the ineptitude of their PR efforts here. That you have two great academic schools like MI and ND simultaneously committing PR seppuku is…something.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196626 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:05 am to
Hey we need that game for the money so save it for 27
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42312 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:39 am to
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We need to go to Josh Pate's 7 Power conferences with 10 teams each.


What about 6 power conferences, 12 teams each, regionally oriented
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47866 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:47 am to
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But their brand, much like Bama's


Bama’s brand is now on ESPN GameDay
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
3878 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:52 am to
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If only it were truly equal and certain teams didn't get blatant favoritism in several ways, but sure Bama is an example of a giant willing to sacrifice fully for fairness to the peons.


I had to laugh at that post as well.

Bama had bridge scheduling rigged for them by a Bama alum for nearly 5 years. From 2012 on up, games were altered, sometimes months before the season, to give Bama the advantage of a weaker conference schedule.

You had a Bama alum in charge of SEC officiating.

Bama got, what, four mulligans during Saban's tenure? No other SEC program would be considered for one, much less two. LOLOL. They even got mulligans when there were only two teams selected for the final game.

For years Bama was the only SEC school that could get away with paying players. Once that field leveled off, their coach retired.

The list goes on and on and on and on.
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