re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread

I didn’t watch on ESPN/Sky… But are the graphics the same that F1 is using on the app? If so, I agree, I do not like them.

Looks like they tried to go to trendy and future. Last years graphics/charts were perfect.

quote:

---

I think we are all in agreement that in recent history we haven't seen a driver have the ability to elevate a car from mid-pack to consistent winner just on driving ability alone.

---

That is my exact point. Even God can't win in a mid-pack car at least without unusual circumstances which occasionally occur or the mid-pack cars are closer in performance to the front runners since at least the early 70s. It likely goes back to 1950 but I have never tried to dig out that data. The key is it isn't a dig against Hamilton, or any other driver that couldn't manage the feat a car has a performance envelope that is a hard wall. A decent driver in a great car will outperform a great driver in a merely decent car. That being said the best drivers usually end up at the best teams and the best teams usually produce the best cars with the odd outlier like Brawn's transformation of Honda in a year.

Hopefully, that is done and dusted because I think it was either using a different lens on the issue or simply having a different definition of mid-pack. The former actually has us in agreement and the latter just has us at a agree to disagree impasse.

Starting my post-race data dive I discovered what almost feels like an anomaly, something I don't ever remember seeing. Take a look at these two FIA reports with sector times and speed traps.






Compare Leclerc's sector times to Verstappen's then look at their max speeds, especially the speed trap. Despite a 25 kph advantage at the front straight speed trap Max was never able to equal any of Charles's best sector times. Obviously, Charles was so slow because he was the only driver on the grid that never had DRS during the race (on the main straight he did in the second DRS zone the time Max passed him). That is an incredible amount of time to make up. I have yet to sit down with the lap time heat map and figure out if Max ever had light fuel, fresh uncycled softs, and DRS at any point and see exactly when Charle's fast sectors were but I am guessing it was on the restart. In the end I think there is more to the story but it just strikes me as odd.





BTW we may NOT have a GP next week. There was a missile attack from Yemen aimed at the Jeddah area yesterday. So far Domenicali is holding strong.

Yeah, that wouldn’t be cool to have missiles coming during a GP weekend. Yemeni fundamentalists probably are t F1 fans.

Looking at the finish line speeds versus the speed trap is telling me Ferrari teams were running a bit more wing than the RB's or the RB's have more top end horsepower while the Ferrari's have more mid range.

Either way, it appears the Ferrari's are better on shorter straights, as seen by Mags being #1 on intermediate 1 while the RB's dominated the absolute top speed.

Also comparing the finish line speed to top end Bottas was 5.3 KPH faster than Max at the line while being down 3.8kph at the big end.

Intermediate 2 is interesting as the top of that list were well down in intermediate 1.

eta-Looking at the track map I'm not seeing the locations of the Inter 1 or 2 for the speeds.

I didn't realize F1 also had "on pace for..." over-reactions as well

Motorsports.com reporting RBR insiders have said it wasn't a spec fuel pump failure. No word on what it was.

With them saying the AT failure was unrelated and both Red Bull cars suffering similar failures a very short time apart I'm starting to assume the obvious.


They didn't run enough fuel, did they?

I mean, it would make sense that Max ran out first since he was pushing harder, then Sergio a short while later.

If they ran out of gas that should have been announced by F1 as they wouldn't have any gas left for the post race test.

I think they are required to have at least 1 liter left in the car for testing.

Now if they fricked up the design to the point it won't pick up everything in the tank....

quote:

---

If they ran out of gas that should have been announced by F1 as they wouldn't have any gas left for the post race test.

---

Reading the race scrutineering document, they didn't even check Max or Checo. They only took a fuel sample from Zhou's car.