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re: Wealth taxes- do you think they will be coming in the next 10 years?

Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:46 pm to
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There has got to be a catch with that graph.

Taxes on the middle class have largely been cut since the 80s, and tax credits and deductions have grown generous.

No clue where they are pulling their data

The trick is in what they consider income and the taxes included. For example, being Lefties - they're probably including FICA in calculating tax rates and not including any fed/state benefits in calculating income. That's how you max the numerator and min the denominator for lower income brackets.
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:28 pm to
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The trick is in what they consider income and the taxes included.


Unrealized gains wealth taxes are just misdirection.

Isn’t the real trick the step up tax rules? You can’t pry houses from anyone’s cold dead hands in California since nobody wants to pay property taxes.

It’s absurd you can buy a house today and be subjected to 10x the property taxes of your neighbors because they kept the home in the family for the last 50 years. Which is almost as crazy as the fact the Kennedy family still holds their rent controlled apartment in NYC.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3779 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:37 am to
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America doesn’t have a Revenue problem …. America has a Spending problem.

Before raising taxes and pissing everybody off …. how about you demonstrate you have Spending under control.


This! Give me a party or admin that has the balls to spend less than we make.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33514 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:51 am to
Wealth tax is a completely new tax concept. There is no comparable tax. All current taxes are based on the movement of money (all are types of income or spending) except property taxes. And property tax /= to wealth tax.

Wealth tax creates an entirely new framework for taxation. And the greedy politicians would love nothing more than an entirely new framework. Soon it would be “you have more than $1000 in a savings account while a majority of Americans do not, you pay a tax on that”. Wealth is entirely relative - just about everyone on this board is wealthy compared to those living on food stamps. There would be no limit on wealth redistribution.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:46 am to
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This graphic by a sitting Senator got 1 million likes on Instagram


Ban bet if those 1 million likes were from actual humans
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5173 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:25 pm to
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Ban bet if those 1 million likes were from actual humans


Hmmm, I’ll take that bet….that’s only 3% of the illegal population that accumulated in the last decade.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:48 pm to
Yes, and I would imagine it is sooner than 10 years, I am not a fan, but I am also not a fan of paying more income tax myself, and they are gonna take it from someone.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Before raising taxes and pissing everybody off …. how about you demonstrate you have Spending under control.

Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2900 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 5:45 pm to
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Frick taxes but we're talking ~150k people in the US.


You'll have about 150,000 less billionaires as U.S. citizens once you enact a wealth tax like this.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:53 pm to
Or you cut govt waste and lower taxes
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:51 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:38 pm to
Taxation has never affected behavior

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16655 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:54 pm to
Who would be responsible for accurately assessing the value of every person’s wealth?

How will the government know the entirety of an art collection and the value of it?

What about valuing privately owned companies?

Would we need to create an agency of investigators with sufficient knowledge and competence to fairly assess these values? Would they be vulnerable to kickbacks from the people they are trying to take money from? Expand the IRS and pay them more?

Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:15 pm to
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Who would be responsible for accurately assessing the value of every person’s wealth? How will the government know the entirety of an art collection and the value of it?


On the bright side, crypto would finally have a legitimate use case.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6785 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:00 am to
If some tax on assets ever becomes constitutional, what is happening in New York will happen nationally. Those impacted will simply pack their bags and move to a tax friendly haven.

A tax on asssets is a dangerous slope….we all know it won’t stop at the richest of the rich. The tax slime always drips downward.

Rich people are usually smart. They will deploy teams of cpas and tax attorneys to find and exploit every loophole….and set up long term holding strategies that bypass whatever new tax may be imposed.

Currently, the USA does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. We will see a default in longer dated treasuries / bonds before we see a wealth tax.

Default meaning that interest due will be restructured with a materially reduced rate and longer amortization.

All that stated…We are a socialized state already….there is no turning back.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26812 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:21 am to
There is turning back.

But it has to get small wins.

Successful tariff programs can lead to consumption taxes (instead of income taxes).

Trump accounts, if successful, could phase out social security retirement benefits.

It wouldn't be my lifetime. But small wins can turn into longterm improvements.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:38 am to
It will fail miserably like everywhere else it’s been tried and will reduce the federal tax take.

Capital flight will be swift out of the US if citizens believe this has a real chance.

Why don’t you libs negotiate a divorce with conservatives in the US and you can have all your utopian dreams?
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3808 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 2:09 pm to
Remember income taxes were passed for the wealthy to pay more. The same thing will happen with wealth taxes. The average American has about 65,000 in net worth. Anything above that will some day be targeted.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16410 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:43 pm to
We already punish capital enough in this country

We need to look at attracting capital rather than drive it away
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