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re: Not sure if Trump could have handled this any worse for market purposes

Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:45 pm to
I am beginning to wonder if this downturn was intentional. Buffett will make bank. He just recently found himself sitting on a big pile of cash.

How convenient....
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6372 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Trump has rolled out there tariffs in the most haphazard way. That’s not debatable.


Except for the facts... He put them on a deadline with what he wanted. They caved and he paused for 30 days. Some decided to not follow through so he called their bluffs. They tried to retaliate, But we hold the cards. And they all backed down.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6372 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:50 pm to
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We did first you dolt.


We did not. LOL!
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:11 pm to
Doug Ford backed down and said there would be no increase in electricity rates after Trump said he would double the tariff on steel and aluminum and then tariff autos at 50% to literally stop all auto manufacturing in Ontario. Canada totally blinked after Trump threatened to drop the hammer. Trump will get what he wants from Canada.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1453 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:22 pm to
Not even close. Markets were collapsing when the White House caved.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7182 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:55 pm to
Anybody that thinks there's some well-defined plan here is out of their fricking mind.

This is just like the first Trump administration, doing shite on the fly with massive amounts of chaos.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:57 pm to
Lmao! Ok
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3181 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:56 pm to
YOY it's 10% up.

My cash positions made only about half of that. But, I'll start selling puts against the cash when some of this downside news cycle momentum slows. My point being that I essentially bought insurance to the downside by moving cash. It seemed to me then that 2025 would be volatile to start, and I won't try to predict how bad it will get.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:00 am to
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Except for the facts... He put them on a deadline with what he wanted. They caved and he paused for 30 days. Some decided to not follow through so he called their bluffs. They tried to retaliate, But we hold the cards. And they all backed down.


It’s like some of you live in an alternate reality.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:29 am to
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It’s like some of you live in an alternate reality.


Would you like news articles after news articles to prove that? Would you like to come over to the PT and run a search for how Trump uses tariffs started by Trump supporters???


Mortgage rates have dropped for the 6th straight week.

Egg prices have dropped.

China says it’s willing to cooperate with the U.S. on fentanyl.



Adults back in charge

Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51339 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:36 am to
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Doug Ford backed down and said there would be no increase in electricity rates after Trump said he would double the tariff on steel and aluminum and then tariff autos at 50% to literally stop all auto manufacturing in Ontario. Canada totally blinked after Trump threatened to drop the hammer. Trump will get what he wants from Canada.


And then

quote:

Canada will announce C$29.8 billion ($20.6 billion) in retaliatory tariffs on the US on Wednesday, in response to President Donald Trump's steel and aluminum tariffs, a Canadian official said.


Yahoo Finance Source
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:40 am to
Hahahha!!!


Read man. Read.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:40 am to
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If that’s his plan he’s insane. He’ll catch all of the blame due to tariffs - fair or not.


Correct.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:41 am to
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Would you like to come over to the PT

And deal with crazy and dumb people? I would advise against it unless people have a lot of patience like me.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:43 am to
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Would you like news articles after news articles to prove that?


Sure.

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Would you like to come over to the PT and run a search for how Trump uses tariffs started by Trump supporters???


No, thank you. I’m looking for facts, not fan fiction.
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Mortgage rates have dropped for the 6th straight week.


Due to growth concerns. Congrats?

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Egg prices have dropped.


Eggs are so dumb. They weren’t Trumps fault going up or down.

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China says it’s willing to cooperate with the U.S. on fentanyl.


Great. Currently we’re tariffing them and they’ve retaliated, so nothing has actually happened.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:55 am to
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Sure


Good.


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No, thank you. I’m looking for facts, not fan fiction.


No you suggested people are living in an alternate reality. If that be the case, and it's not, then you should not be able to find people talking about how Trump uses tariffs.

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Due to growth concerns. Congrats?



Lol. Wow.


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Eggs are so dumb. They weren’t Trumps fault going up or down.


SMH.... seriously. This isn't hard to even look up. WSJ even had an article on Trumps 5 steps to lower the costs.

Since you may not can read the WSJ.... LINK

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Great. Currently we’re tariffing them and they’ve retaliated, so nothing has actually happened.



Yes. Something happened. They have agreed to help with the problem.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133550 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:05 am to
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I have been primarily in cash for over a year
Congratulations on missing out on a 25%+ rally in the stock market for "over a year."
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9563 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:12 am to
Trump's goal isn't to get it done smoothly ... or to be sensitive to allies that have been allowed by weak, bi-partisan leadership to tariff the shyte out of the US.

Trump is tasked by the American People to fix the current fiscal crisis. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Trump's job, quite frankly, is to get it done quickly.... no matter what Wall Street thinks about it. Those money-printers are the parasites that bring down the behemoth.

Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33463 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:33 am to
Delusional
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6372 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:10 am to
He's 100% right
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