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re: Debt Debt Debt.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:44 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:44 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:I'm a teacher. I can't help but care. I hate to see folks not have a clue where $1,500 of their money ends up while simultaneously complaining about paying off just seven grand in two years.
Settle down. It’s my life in the shitter, not yours.
Wouldn't you agree that you both work too hard to allow $1,500 wander off unaccounted for? Is your wife worse off financially than you are?
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:54 pm to bayoubengals88
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hate to see folks not have a clue where $1,500 of their money ends up while simultaneously complaining about paying off just seven grand in two years.
I’m at work. I think I am underestimating something. Believe me we don’t have $1500 sitting in checking after everything is paid. I am missing something. I am at work typing from my phone.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 5:35 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Do you have an emergency fund (money in checking/savings, non retirement investments)?
Normally I would say a 1k emergency fund is way too low, but it might just scare you into doing a budget.
Normally I would say a 1k emergency fund is way too low, but it might just scare you into doing a budget.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 5:47 pm to Ric Flair
mother of God.... 63K of CC debt....
At what point did y'all just stop caring/ noticing and let it go completely??
Edited: I see that not all of that is CC but still... my question remains.
At what point did y'all just stop caring/ noticing and let it go completely??
Edited: I see that not all of that is CC but still... my question remains.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:39 pm to LSU alum wannabe
It takes balls to admit you have a problem. Enjoy Holloween with the kid tonight.
My simple suggestion: Make a budget.
I like Mint as an easy spending tracker with a budget function. It will breakdown spending categories. It allowed me to very quickly notice poor habits. Watching the needle move will make cost cutting to pay down debt bearable.
My specific suggestion: Heloc
If you 80-100k value in you home and can get a 5-6% loan to pay off 8.9-22.8% CC debt, then you will see massive savings.
My warning: If you don’t budget, then you will never escape debt.
My simple suggestion: Make a budget.
I like Mint as an easy spending tracker with a budget function. It will breakdown spending categories. It allowed me to very quickly notice poor habits. Watching the needle move will make cost cutting to pay down debt bearable.
My specific suggestion: Heloc
If you 80-100k value in you home and can get a 5-6% loan to pay off 8.9-22.8% CC debt, then you will see massive savings.
My warning: If you don’t budget, then you will never escape debt.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:00 pm to B4YOU
If he defaults on the HELOC, then he loses his house...so there is a risk appetite there. Your point remains that it could be a great way to get out of high interest CC debt.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:17 pm to B4YOU
quote:
I like Mint as an easy spending tracker with a budget function. It will breakdown spending categories. It allowed me to very quickly notice poor habits. Watching the needle move will make cost cutting to pay down debt bearable.
I was just coming here to post this.
Using Mint you can track EXACTLY where your money goes per month.
I personally don't think you have put much effort in attempting to pay down the debt. If you were really looking to cut into the debt, you wouldn't spend $1400 a month on ENTERTAINMENT! The easiest way to cut into your debt is right here. I'm guessing y'all have a bad case of FOMO but with that kind of debt, you have to gain a backbone and stop going to dinner/movies/golf or whatever it is that you are spending that much a month.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:44 pm to rowbear1922
Just a cursory glance at the recent post history shows that our OP here isn't one to part with nice things.
1) Pool and hot tub reboot
2) Woodworking hobby
3) Guitar junkie (revised: guitar addict)
4) Drinks alone at local watering hole $$$
5) Weekend trip just a couple months ago
6) Guitars... Is this the problem OP?
7) and he's mentioned a wife who likes to spend...I'm afraid this is all of America.
I'd argue that literally none of this should be of concern with the amount of cc debt we're talking here.
Did you, God forbid, buy a guitar with the credit card? Regardless, guitars are bought with money that should have gone TO the debt...
and then there's this gem:
Upon further review, our guy is just ate up with good ole American consumerism. I get the itch about twice a year to buy a new dress shirt, but damn! Half his threads are either about buying or repairing something, a hobby, or drinking at bars.
shite dude! Pay that credit card down! How much are you spending on alcohol? How much on your summer getaways?
1) Pool and hot tub reboot
2) Woodworking hobby
3) Guitar junkie (revised: guitar addict)
4) Drinks alone at local watering hole $$$
5) Weekend trip just a couple months ago
6) Guitars... Is this the problem OP?
7) and he's mentioned a wife who likes to spend...I'm afraid this is all of America.
I'd argue that literally none of this should be of concern with the amount of cc debt we're talking here.
Did you, God forbid, buy a guitar with the credit card? Regardless, guitars are bought with money that should have gone TO the debt...
and then there's this gem:
quote:OP, try intermittent fasting to save money!
I realize this is a low set bar. I work at 7AM and I know the correct answer is probably a smoothie of some sort. All of my smoothie options open AT 7.
This leaves me with Chik Fil A, Whataburger, and MacDonalds. Everybody gets in a bind now and then and aren't up in time to make a decent breakfast. What do you guys do when you must hit up a drive thru breakfast?
Upon further review, our guy is just ate up with good ole American consumerism. I get the itch about twice a year to buy a new dress shirt, but damn! Half his threads are either about buying or repairing something, a hobby, or drinking at bars.
shite dude! Pay that credit card down! How much are you spending on alcohol? How much on your summer getaways?
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Easy answer, but not one you want to hear: work five 12 hour shifts/week. I’m guessing you work 3 12’s a week with an occasional 4 12 hr week.
If 5 12’s in the ER is too strenuous, get a second job at an occupational health clinic where you mainly piss test people or treat on-the-job injuries.
None of this will work, however, unless you get your spending under control.
To put it bluntly, suck it up, make more, spend less. There is no magic formula/shell game for your debt that will fix this.
If 5 12’s in the ER is too strenuous, get a second job at an occupational health clinic where you mainly piss test people or treat on-the-job injuries.
None of this will work, however, unless you get your spending under control.
To put it bluntly, suck it up, make more, spend less. There is no magic formula/shell game for your debt that will fix this.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:31 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
OP, try intermittent fasting to save money!
Or hard boiling a dozen eggs on Sun nite and eating two every AM. Protein packed, minimal effort, and cheap. I keep feeling sorry for his kid—what is that lil guy getting for breakfast? Cooking at home is a damn good way to save money. If you make juniors breafast, why aren’t you making your own at the same time? Peanut butter on whole wheat toast and half an apple...beats the hell out of smoothies or fast food. It’s actual, minimally processed food that’s not expensive.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:35 pm to hungryone
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Or hard boiling a dozen eggs on Sun nite and eating two every AM
But then my fats will stink and that's just not good
--OP finds another excuse to waste his money.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:39 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Sell the house pay off all debt, save the rest. Use the savings per month (1700 bucks) to help with increase from 1600 to whatever rent is and save the rest every month to buy a new house later (or not).
Posted on 10/31/18 at 10:05 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:nevermind.
That’s Dave too. It’s a bit puritanical. I as a borrower have sinned. I am a glutton and must be punished. Sell your cars and buy a shitty but dependable car and deliver pizzas as a side hustle.
See you in a couple more years
Posted on 10/31/18 at 10:23 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:They likely require you to default on your loan and then settle with each creditor for less than the balance owed. You will be taxed as income on any debt forgiven and your credit will be shite for a while. In addition, they will take a big chunk of the charge off amount.
Their sales points are that they only collect off of the deduction they obtain. Meaning they get all lenders to agree to take 45000 instead of 63000. They have me pay 49000. They keep the 4grand.
It is a terrible idea. Even if you were to go this route in dealing with your debt, you can accomplish the same thing without their help.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 10:27 pm to LSU alum wannabe
This is simple
the above has to equal zero until the below equals zero.
There is nothing wrong with spending whatever you wish on entertainment and or travel IF it is within your means and it is not done with borrowed money.
quote:
Entertainment. Bring on the downvotes. $1400.
the above has to equal zero until the below equals zero.
quote:
Credit Cards $1700!!!
There is nothing wrong with spending whatever you wish on entertainment and or travel IF it is within your means and it is not done with borrowed money.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 10:57 pm to B4YOU
quote:
My simple suggestion: Make a budget
Isn’t it amazing how clear the picture becomes when you know where every dollar is going?
I was up to $70,000 in debt at one point - some Katrina related, some medical, but plenty just credit cards. Got it all paid off. Then I ran credit cards up to $37,000 again. My attitude was “We have $5K/month after bills are paid - it will come down eventually.” But it’s amazing how many miscellaneous expenses creep up each month even after all the fixed expenses are paid (my average miscellaneous expenses after all bills are paid is around $2K/mo., which shocked me).
For a few months I started writing down every dollar we spent. I realized I was overspending an average of $1,500/month. I put a budget on paper - nothing fancy, no computer program needed, just a notebook with all of my bills/expenses/entertainment allowance/investments, and everything else itemized. Credit cards are pretty much wiped out now and I keep things in check. I have money put away for the first time in my life.
Life is much better and less stressful due to a pen, a notebook, and some common sense. I still write down every dollar I spend, so if I am over budget even for a week, I know exactly how much. It’s not about beating yourself up, it’s about holding yourself accountable for every dollar you spend.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 12:08 am
Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:13 pm to TigrrrDad
We have the savings to pay it but finance says to not use that money even if it’s getting next to no interest in a conventional savings account versus the debt at zero percent.
Some people just have different attitudes towards debt. But I don’t feel sorry for OP at all. I read all five pages. He’s not serious about really getting out of debt.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:57 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:
In the same thread you are saying his wife should be working, he should have side jobs, with an 8 year old at home, you tell him to go down to one vehicle. Where is the logic in that
Oh, and automatically sell his house in spite of there being markets where it can be far more expensive to rent than to buy.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:10 am to Volvagia
Housing + debt above = 1700+1600+new a/c loan + money needed for maintenance/repairs
Housing if renting (selling and using equity to pay off massive debt) = just the rent
Owning a house is not always the best situation even if the note is less than rent.
Housing if renting (selling and using equity to pay off massive debt) = just the rent
Owning a house is not always the best situation even if the note is less than rent.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:29 am to Dawgfanman
That’s not an apples to apples comparison.
This thread has been such a waste of time. The OP clearly isn’t focused on solving the issue and I wish him the best.

This thread has been such a waste of time. The OP clearly isn’t focused on solving the issue and I wish him the best.
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