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Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:53 am to
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15188 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:53 am to
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Upon further review, our guy is just ate up with good ole American consumerism. I get the itch about twice a year to buy a new dress shirt, but damn! Half his threads are either about buying or repairing something, a hobby, or drinking at bars.
shite dude! Pay that credit card down! How much are you spending on alcohol? How much on your summer getaways?


I don't get how the OP got half of their combined yearly income in debt. My guess is "Keeping Up with the Jones", but if the Jones' make $300k a year, you cannot keep up.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19107 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:55 am to
Yep. Lost cause here I’m afraid. OP bought a $1,500 watch not too long ago. He’s got a disease.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15188 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:00 am to
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Life is much better and less stressful due to a pen, a notebook, and some common sense. I still write down every dollar I spend, so if I am over budget even for a week, I know exactly how much. It’s not about beating yourself up, it’s about holding yourself accountable for every dollar you spend.


TigrrrDad, you can also download Mint to do the same thing. It tracks all of your accounts and you can set your monthly budget on it. It will tell you each week what you spent money on and how you are doing for the month. It will send notifications if you are about to and then after exceeding a particular category. If pen and paper is working, by all means, let what works continue but if you are looking to save some time it's an option. I began using it and realized JUST how much I am spending on food and drinks. It's helping me save more.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119772 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:23 am to
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Spoke with a company from a random mailer.


No, no, no. If you want help, go to a trusted advisor, not some advertising company.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:24 am to
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bought a $1,500 watch not too long ago. He’s got a disease.


Wow. Just wow. Poor kid’s gonna hit college in nine short years with zero assistance from his spendthrift parents. Let’s just hope he grows up to be one of those people who decide early in life NOT to relive their parents’ mistakes.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15188 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:32 am to
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Wow. Just wow. Poor kid’s gonna hit college in nine short years with zero assistance from his spendthrift parents. Let’s just hope he grows up to be one of those people who decide early in life NOT to relive their parents’ mistakes.


After getting in $50k of his own debt from student loans.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27047 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:51 am to
Spoke with wife last night after she talked with another company and just did not get a good feeling. We are going to start the snowball again. There are 3 minimal accounts that could be knocked out in two months. That starts our snowball again. We should have more by going back to the other $200 in 3-4 previous store cards.

After those 3 begin the bigger cards. Hopefully credit score creeps up as debt goes down. Then we are able to qualify for a manageable fixed term lower interest loan and just pay the cards with that money and have the one note.

Guitars are all paid for by the way. None of my guitars are expensive.

The "1500 dollar watch" was my 40th birthday present to myself. I had amassed quite a bit of cash and gift cards over birthdays and Christmas to pay for it. And it's a $3800 watch I believe if bought brand new. I went used.

Entertainment, I have no excuse. It's the $1400 elephant in the room. It's what will be needed to balance us and have the extra to put dents in this debt.

Pool was mentioned. "Reboot" does not mean a refurbish or replaster etc. we simply had a part break and have been unable to circulate water. Reboot means a SLAM process to turn a green pool blue. Is a pool a luxury? Yes. Is it sensible to neglect the pool for 3 years while we pay off debts? No. It will be a swamp that will then cost a $1000 to restart. Or more depending on the equipment that I destroy with neglect.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:55 am to
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Spoke with wife last night after she talked with another company and just did not get a good feeling. We are going to start the snowball again. There are 3 minimal accounts that could be knocked out in two months. That starts our snowball again. We should have more by going back to the other $200 in 3-4 previous store cards.

Good decision.

You are still in denial about your spending it appears. The debt snowball is fine, but your issues won't resolve until you track your spending and set a workable budget.

With your income, a relatively cheap mortgage, and no auto loans you should be able to dig out of this mess fairly quickly, but you have to change your lifestyle/spending.

This problem will linger and will eat at you and your marriage if you don't make a significant change.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 7:57 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:57 am to
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Guitars are all paid for by the way. None of my guitars are expensive.

The "1500 dollar watch" was my 40th birthday present to myself.


The fact that you don't think these are

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Entertainment, I have no excuse. It's the $1400 elephant in the room


This is why you'll never pay any of this debt off. When you have 65k of debt you don't live in a house with a pool and have a thousand dollar watch and multiple guitars. You sell that shite and pay 10% of the debt off.

You make 120k per year household and have no auto loans, you should be able to pay this off in three years MAX if you'd get your head out of your arse.

Eta: and as nurses you have nearly unlimited overtime opportunity.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:13 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15188 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:58 am to
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Guitars are all paid for by the way. None of my guitars are expensive.

The "1500 dollar watch" was my 40th birthday present to myself. I had amassed quite a bit of cash and gift cards over birthdays and Christmas to pay for it. And it's a $3800 watch I believe if bought brand new. I went used.


And all unnecessary when the "cash" could be used to lower debt. Interest alone over 3-4 years will make that watch more than a brand new one.

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Entertainment, I have no excuse. It's the $1400 elephant in the room. It's what will be needed to balance us and have the extra to put dents in this debt


I am not saying you need to delete ALL of it but if you can't shave $1k a month from this, you have a consumerism issue. It should be a pretty simple concept to NOT live above your means.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:09 am to
I have about the same situation as the op. $120k/yr household (family of 5) income with mortgage and no other loans. I would put up my budget for an outside reference point, but I the OP would have no interest in living like we do so it seems pointless.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27047 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:13 am to
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The fact that you don't think these are

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Entertainment, I have no excuse. It's the $1400 elephant in the room







Fair enough. Sadly the $1400 is just bullshite. Meals, beer, games, movies, things that I walk away with nothing to show. Guitars are actually separate in my lists as I am walking away with a guitar. Not just a cool story.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:15 am to
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Guitars are actually separate in my lists as I am walking away with a guitar. Not just a cool story.


That your undoubtedly paying for with a credit card and after the interest that you're not paying, you are paying 4x what you think you are.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27047 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:23 am to
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would put up my budget for an outside reference point, but I the OP would have no interest in living like we do so it seems pointless.


Smug much?


Also, Mint has been mentioned more than once. Is this a free app or is their a subscription?
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:25 am to
Free app. Download it, link your accounts and it will tell you where your money has been going. It's a great first step to figuring out how to do a budget. However, it is just a tool, you have to use it the right way for it to help.

Your responses appear to reveal the attitude of someone not willing to fully come to grips with what needs to be done to fix your situation. I hope that isn't the case.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:27 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27047 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:25 am to
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That your undoubtedly paying for with a credit card and after the interest that you're not paying, you are paying 4x what you think you are.


They are not part of my debt. They were paid with fantasy football winnings and accumulations of gift cards. No owe no interest.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27047 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:27 am to
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PearlJam


Thanks. I am just going to assume Eddie Vedder is giving me financial advice.

Or Stone. That dude looks like he lives under his means.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:28 am
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:28 am to
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They are not part of my debt. They were paid with fantasy football winnings and accumulations of gift cards. No owe no interest.
That's fine if you want to compartmentalize it that way, but every dollar you spend on guitars, watches, woodworking equipment, and various other forms of discretionary spending is a dollar that could have paid down debt and avoided interest. It's essentially the same as buying it on credit when you avoid paying down credit to buy it.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:30 am to
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After those 3 begin the bigger cards. Hopefully credit score creeps up as debt goes down. Then we are able to qualify for a manageable fixed term lower interest loan and just pay the cards with that money and have the one note.


Credit card companies constantly give 0% for 12-18 months on balance transfers. I carry no balances and still get them.

But as others have said, you guys have a spending problem you have to take care of before you get a solid foundation.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:32 am to
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Credit card companies constantly give 0% for 12-18 months on balance transfers. I carry no balances and still get them.


He's not going to be able to get approved for them
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