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Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:08 pm to shel311
I don’t disagree but comparing it to the Les Miles era doesn’t really work imo bc the personnel and packages were different. Les recruited huge tight ends and fullbacks and he made sure we had at least 4 running backs who regularly saw carries. There was never any surprise as to what you were gonna see. It just wore most teams out.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:09 pm to Raz
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Teams know Daniels can't threaten them down the field or run the zone read effectively
Teams have started to defense the run because Daniels is shitty downfield passer. It’s only going to get worse, it’s Nuss or bust.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:10 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I certainly think much of it is the scheme. Didn't like the play calling near the goal line--too many runs up the middle, with limited success.
Perhaps the Tigers missed John Emery more than most of us thought.
I was hoping to see more swing passes from JD to the running backs flaring out of the backfield.
Perhaps the Tigers missed John Emery more than most of us thought.
I was hoping to see more swing passes from JD to the running backs flaring out of the backfield.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:11 pm to rjokerlsu
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Perhaps the Tigers missed John Emery more than most of us thought.
This.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:12 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I was disappointed in rhe play of the right side of the OL. They were beat on virtually every play in the second half. The announcers even caught FSU talking about how soft they were. Danieals was nowhere near as accurate as we were led to believe. The final nail was our coaching staff's failure to adjust in game, especially at the half.
As a side note, we missed Maason Smith. I felt bad for Wingo. After being unstoppable in the first half, FSU just triple teamed him most of the 2nd half.
As a side note, we missed Maason Smith. I felt bad for Wingo. After being unstoppable in the first half, FSU just triple teamed him most of the 2nd half.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:12 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Poor scheme for the running game, lack of push up front, no down field passing game to back the defense up. Everyone who plays us doesn’t need a defender past 10 yards because Daniels won’t stretch the field.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:22 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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What's wrong with the running game?
JD is what's wrong with the running game. JD is a good athlete that can make some plays but he is fools gold and BK is fooled.
JD cannot single handedly carry this offense on his back. I know BK is not asking him to carry the team but JD's lack of capability narrows the field for defenses. Defenses will continue to stack the box and make JD throw over the top. JD apparently HATES throwing over the top because he never does it. Until JD forces defenses to respect the entire field the running game will continue to struggle as teams man up and stack the box. He is not a Cam Newton. He has to get more people involved in the offense on a consistent basis. He has shown time after time that he fails in this regard. As much as we want JD to change he won't. JD is who he is. You will get some good plays, a lot of garbage time stats and garbage when the play matters. The JD lovers will look at the box score and see decent to good stats and not realize it's fool's gold.
In terms of stats JD reminds me of Jim Everet that used to paly for the Saints. He always had good stats but NEVER made plays when it counted, they were just garbage time stats. Championship programs make plays when it matters.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:30 pm to SammyTiger
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we spread the field horizontally.
he’ll you can do that with just your formation
We certainly didn't do that with formation. Our WRs are often split inside the hashes with one motioning within the tackle box on running downs.
It's much more of a NFL formation. With the wide hashmarks, college teams typically take advantage of that and spread the defense out. Go watch Tennessee to see the extreme end of that.
It clogs the box and our OL, IMO, is poorly coached. We weren't getting OL to the 2nd level all night.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:34 pm to GumboPot
quote:A shite ton of teams run well without good QB play.
JD is what's wrong with the running game
Daniels could be Caleb Williams out there, it wouldn't make the Oline get dominated any less than they did last night.
If FSU stopped the run by crowding the box, you'd have a point. But they didn't. They just flat out dominated their matchups, it wasn't schemed to overload and stop the run.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:36 pm to Lsuhoohoo
You need a o line to have a running game and you need some running backs
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:36 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Play calling is awful.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:42 pm to Madking
The blocking
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:43 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Terrible Oline. They were dominated all game.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:44 pm to Lsuhoohoo
The thread is about the running game, but so many are still talking about the passing game. Stick to the thread.
The running plays are between the inside of the guards. Who the heck runs such a one-sided play scheme? Brian Kelly, that's who.
Oh, I forgot. JD's option runs. Did he pass off those option runs to another running back?
LSU is not even considering a running scheme. At LSU. Really? Wow!
If the LSU offensive line can't run block in Kelly's second year, that is the coach's failure. Coach them up and commit to running off tackle and counters, if such plays are in the playbook, which I doubt.
Watch when we play Grambling. What will the running plays exhibit?
The running plays are between the inside of the guards. Who the heck runs such a one-sided play scheme? Brian Kelly, that's who.
Oh, I forgot. JD's option runs. Did he pass off those option runs to another running back?
LSU is not even considering a running scheme. At LSU. Really? Wow!
If the LSU offensive line can't run block in Kelly's second year, that is the coach's failure. Coach them up and commit to running off tackle and counters, if such plays are in the playbook, which I doubt.
Watch when we play Grambling. What will the running plays exhibit?
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Defense knows LSU can’t throw down field.
Stack the box and shuts down the run.
See Les Miles/JJ
Stack the box and shuts down the run.
See Les Miles/JJ
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:47 pm to sabbertooth
quote:What game did you and others watch last night?
Stack the box and shuts down the run.
FSU dominated the run by winning matchups, not stacking the box
quote:That example proves your point wrong
See Les Miles/JJ
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:47 pm to sabbertooth
Anytime they dropped safeties we opened big holes. 6 can’t block 8 or 9, it’s just not possible.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:51 pm to shel311
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I don't know why people keep saying this. Jordan Jefferson struggled to reach 100 yards passing a few times in a single season, and we still dominated teams on the ground. That's a poor excuse. We didn't struggle to run because FSU stacked the box last night, that's where you're wrong. We struggled to run because their Dline dominated our Oline in the run game
This guy gets it. It’s the unpopular opinion, but the accurate one.
Facts: LSU’s O line was soft last night. Not physical. Got no push at all at the LOS. Florida State’s D-line was far more physical and dominated our O line.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:51 pm to shel311
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I don't know why people keep saying this.
Jordan Jefferson struggled to reach 100 yards passing a few times in a single season, and we still dominated teams on the ground.
We weren't doing that out of the shotgun and we weren't doing it on read option plays where the offensive line doesn't actually know where the ball is going.
One of the biggest issues that Daniels causes is no one knows what the frick he's going to do. It works in our favor sometimes and sometimes it ends in dropped passes, missed blocks, etc
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