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What was the reason behind starting Dutton?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:14 am
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:14 am
I know hindsight is 20/20 but Why not start Coleman, Hellmers, ACK?
I see everyone discussing putting in Jump in the 9th and the missed fly, but I feel like we lost this game in the 1st
I see everyone discussing putting in Jump in the 9th and the missed fly, but I feel like we lost this game in the 1st
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:19 am to LSU6262
They had 2 runs going into the 9th. You take that every time.
We failed at the plate and on a pop fly.
We failed at the plate and on a pop fly.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:22 am to CatfishJohn
You’re half right. The pop up had no bearing on the game. Giving up three runs in nine innings but putting up 7 straight scoreless innings is where the game was lost. Jay Johnson is known for teams with offense… last nights performance was offensive.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:22 am to LSU6262
My guess is they figured Dutton would have to get 3-5 outs at some point no matter what. They were out of arms. Better those outs be in the 1st and 2nd inning than the 7th and 8th.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:22 am to LSU6262
Doug Thomson on the radio before the game said it was because he throws strikes and they didn’t want to risk a bunch of walks in the very first inning and UNC gain momentum out the gate. Well he threw strikes alright, and they all got hit
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:32 am to cfish140
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Doug Thomson on the radio before the game said it was because he throws strikes and they didn’t want to risk a bunch of walks in the very first inning and UNC gain momentum out the gate. Well he threw strikes alright, and they all got hit
Yep. Dutton pitches to contact or gets Ks. Unfortunately, all of that contact found green grass to start. Worked out in the end, but the bats went cold.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:33 am to cfish140
that’s all they say about Dutton
“he throws strikes”
it’s not a strike if the batter smashes it back at you
“he throws strikes”
it’s not a strike if the batter smashes it back at you
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 7:35 am
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:37 am to SammyTiger
Dutton definitely pounds the zone. To be fair to him two of those hits were seeing eye singles.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:39 am to RB10
My issue with it is that they hit him in the other game. So you're basically starting them off with 1) a pitcher they've seen, and 2) confidence because it's a pitcher they've hit. I feel like Dutton should've been in reserve if needed, but not started.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:40 am to LSU6262
He’s never been good enough and never will be good enough. I hated the decision too
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:40 am to frogpond11
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My issue with it is that they hit him in the other game. So you're basically starting them off with 1) a pitcher they've seen, and 2) confidence because it's a pitcher they've hit. I feel like Dutton should've been in reserve if needed, but not started.
So you’d rather him come in later in more high leverage situations because they’ve seen him and hit him?
That makes zero sense.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:32 am to RB10
you can’t pound the zone with low 90s from the right side.
you gotta nipple the edges
you gotta nipple the edges
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:48 am to SammyTiger
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you can’t pound the zone with low 90s from the right side.
you gotta nipple the edges
Well, there's a reason he was a back of the bullpen guy. Still, if you're having to count on his to get outs I can understand why they preferred it to be early in the game, and not late.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:48 am to CatfishJohn
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They had 2 runs going into the 9th. You take that every time.
We failed at the plate and on a pop fly.
I don't disagree. The pop fly is getting too much heat, imo. Even with that change there is no guarantee we win in the 11th
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:49 am to LSU6262
Dutton started versus Bama and Ole Miss.
It was something the kid had done with limited success.
Someone had to start. No one believed that we would hold them to two runs through 8, but with excellent pitching and good defense we did.
It was something the kid had done with limited success.
Someone had to start. No one believed that we would hold them to two runs through 8, but with excellent pitching and good defense we did.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:22 am to LSU6262
Dutton throws strikes. The idea being he could get an inning to start the game without walking a team to a big inning.
Dutton threw strikes as planned unfortunately UNC was ready to hit.
Dutton threw strikes as planned unfortunately UNC was ready to hit.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:31 am to Broken Arrow
quote:what nonsense. We still may not have won but to say that the play that let the winning run across had no bearing is just dumb
The pop up had no bearing on the game.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:48 am to LSU6262
IDK the answer.
I think Jay was trying to find a path to 9 innings with the available arms. My guess is hoped to 'steal' a couple with Dutton at the start - hoping NC bats might be a little sluggish.
At the end of the day, major props to CJJ. We held a good hitting NC lineup to 4 runs in two consecutive games.
And Jump is a pitching warrior.
I think Jay was trying to find a path to 9 innings with the available arms. My guess is hoped to 'steal' a couple with Dutton at the start - hoping NC bats might be a little sluggish.
At the end of the day, major props to CJJ. We held a good hitting NC lineup to 4 runs in two consecutive games.
And Jump is a pitching warrior.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:54 am to LSU6262
You want to talk about bad decisions? The worst pitching decision CJJ made all night was coming in with Helmers after Dutton and Coleman failed. THAT was a crazy bad decision.
In fact, every pitching decision he made was terrible. And that’s because after four games there were no good decisions left.
In fact, every pitching decision he made was terrible. And that’s because after four games there were no good decisions left.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:01 am to SammyTiger
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it’s not a strike if the batter smashes it back at you
yes it is.
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