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re: Verge isn’t interested in Week Zero games

Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:46 am to
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13390 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:46 am to
We return a ton of experience in this system next year I think we’ll be a lot more ready
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164091 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:46 am to
LSU should have parted ways with Verge long ago.
quote:

"I don't think it means a difference in a win or loss of a game. We're LSU."

Except for the three times now LSU’s been fricked by a team playing a Week 0 game before they played LSU.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Let's ask BK since he has to answer for the opening game losses, which more often than not, make the playoffs more of an uphill climb.


Not necessarily especially when the playoffs expand. You just take care of business in conference and that game wouldn’t matter.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29175 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:46 am to
How does he still have a job?!?
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5726 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:49 am to
He’s about the last holdover from our dysfunctional arse, incompetent FKing/Alleva administration and their resulting coaching staffs. They need to put his LSU career in a box and float it down the river
Posted by LSU_connoisseur
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2022
795 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:51 am to
Only thing I want to read about Verge is he’s been fired. F’him
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10980 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:56 am to
Nothing but deflection from Verge....he is in charge of scheduling/contracts and he SCREWED up 2 times in a row !
The vast majority of coaches will tell you that their teams see the most IMPROVEMENT from game 1 to game 2 !
Advice to Verge...let a contract expert take care of future negotiations !!
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
704 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Verge can’t even convince his kids to play for LSU. He sucks.


This is half true. Verge’s wife was the one pushing the kids away from LSU after the Title IX lawsuits and what not. Verge, the highest-ranking black man in the LSU Athletic Department, was the proverbial fall man—reason being was that LSU was NOT going to fire the highest-ranking black man in the Athletic Department, so they suspended him without pay.
Posted by RUKIDDINGME
Conroe, TX
Member since Nov 2018
2221 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:02 pm to
Don’t forget about UCLA in 2021…
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24601 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:03 pm to
Just dumb
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45106 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

"I don't think it means a difference in a win or loss of a game. We're LSU."

"We don't need to do that to get prepared for an opponent."



The "We're LSU" comment is stupid and arrogant.

quote:

"I don't think it means a difference in a win or loss of a game.


When you have new staff and offense and defense with young players it absolutely makes a difference.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13072 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:17 pm to
We could not have played a week 0 game in 2022. There was no one left for us to play. And, we cannot, by contract, control who, when, or where our opponents play.

Verge has very FEW ORIGINAL THOUGHTS, SO WHAT HE SAID PROBABLY WAS A REPEAT OF WHAT HE WAS TOLD BY bk OR WHOEVER.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

We don't need to do that to get prepared for an opponent.
sorry, but I agree with Verge. We don’t need to beat a Duquesne to get ready for the season.

Hell, doesn’t this board remember that over the past 20 years, we’ve opened with :

Miami
BYU
Wisconsin (twice)
TCU
Oregon
North Carolina
Washington
Arizona State
Oregon State
Va Tech
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9260 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:45 pm to
What a dumb statement. “We are LSU.” As if we are somehow different and special from all the other elite teams in the NCAA.

Look, Verge, I don’t expect anything from our athletic leadership that I would not expect from any other top-organization. And that means I expect you to leverage every single advantage possible to help us win every single week, no matter how small that advantage might be.

To have the attitude that certain advantages don’t matter is not only strategically unsound… it is very lazy.
Posted by root canal
West Monroe
Member since Dec 2007
1100 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:01 pm to

My whole lifetime, I have heard coaches say
That the biggest improvement is between week one and week two. If that is true, then Verge is full of crap. Of course, we could beat a small school with no problem, but the point is getting the kinks worked out so you don’t make a bunch of mistakes against the good school that you’re playing the next week.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:24 pm to
22 FSU L **
21 UCLA L **
20 Miss State L
19 Ga Sou W
18 Miami W
17 BYU W **
16 Wisconsin L
15 Mc Neese St W
14 Wisconsin W
13 TCU W
12 N Texas W
11 Oregon W
10 N Carolina W
09 Washington W
08 App State W
07 Miss State W
06 USL W
05 Ariz State due to Katrina W **
04 Oregon State W
03 ULM W
02 Virginia Tech L**
01 Tulane W **
00 W Carolina W

** opponent’s second game

18-5 in openers since Saban took over
3-3 in openers versus teams playing their second game.

Edited to correct mistake
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 12:02 pm
Posted by T Lasso
Member since Aug 2021
326 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:29 pm to
There should be two “preseason” games, which do not count toward the regular season record. Focus on your freshman and transfers. The D3 schools and mid majors get paid a few dollars, the team has a chance to improve a little bit before the actual season starts. You’ve increased the total amount of games, which increases ticket revenue, and you have a path to completely do away with bullshite cupcake games in a regular season of college football. And these games do not count toward eligibility for redshirt

For good measure, I’ll also add that there should only be one opportunity to transfer schools, and it should only be after at least two years of enrollment at the initially decided institution (redshirt or not)
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4565 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

It’s a VERY small number of teams that even can do it. Week zero games are related to the “Hawaii Rule” whereby any team that travels to Hawaii for a game is permitted to schedule a 13th game during week zero. This year, Duquesne played at Hawaii in week 4 so they were allowed to schedule a week zero game (vs Florida State).


As many times as it has been discussed here, it amazes me that there are some that still don’t understand how week 0 games work.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71529 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:35 pm to
You can apply for an exemption like Miami and Florida did a couple years ago too or if you have an extreme travel game, like playing in Ireland, doesn’t just have to involve Hawaii.

But Verge just issuing a blanket refusal is stupid. Par for the course for him.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19053 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Verge isn’t interested in Week Zero games


I am not either. Further degrades the season ticket value… If we are worried about Wk zero games then stipulate in the season opener tv contract that our opponent cant have one either.
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