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re: Remember… this all started over a video game.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
Funny how everyone changes their tune when it comes crashing down. When people yelled from the mountains to pay the athletes others said it would ruin college athletics, it would crash what people once loved.
“It’s only Name Image Likeness, they deserve some money”… it won’t end well, but okay.
Here we are.
“It’s only Name Image Likeness, they deserve some money”… it won’t end well, but okay.
Here we are.
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:16 pm to Dizz
Did you miss those years and how entertwined all of that shite was? The racial bullshite spilled into the idea that these poor slaving college players are being treated unfairly. The protests spilled into universities and conferences finally entertaining, instead of fighting, the open paying of players.
I'm not arguing with you. If you can't see all of the connections, you won't after arguing with me.
AI slop for you to entertain, jackass.
What the 2021 Ruling Allowed
Academic gear:
Schools can buy players computers, science equipment, or musical instruments.
Post-graduate help: Schools can pay for graduate school scholarships or paid professional internships.
Academic rewards: Schools can give cash awards for high grades.
What the Ruling Did Not Do
No direct pay: The court did not rule that players can receive direct cash salaries from universities just for playing sports.
Amateur status: The NCAA kept the right to ban pay that has nothing to do with school.
I'm not arguing with you. If you can't see all of the connections, you won't after arguing with me.
AI slop for you to entertain, jackass.
What the 2021 Ruling Allowed
Academic gear:
Schools can buy players computers, science equipment, or musical instruments.
Post-graduate help: Schools can pay for graduate school scholarships or paid professional internships.
Academic rewards: Schools can give cash awards for high grades.
What the Ruling Did Not Do
No direct pay: The court did not rule that players can receive direct cash salaries from universities just for playing sports.
Amateur status: The NCAA kept the right to ban pay that has nothing to do with school.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:18 pm to bgtiger
Even though the 2021 case was narrow, it cracked open the door for more changes.
Athletes gained the right to make money from their name, image, and likeness (NIL) through outside endorsements.
Later, a massive multibillion-dollar agreement known as the ESPN settlement allowed schools to begin direct revenue-sharing and pay athletes directly out of athletic funds.
Athletes gained the right to make money from their name, image, and likeness (NIL) through outside endorsements.
Later, a massive multibillion-dollar agreement known as the ESPN settlement allowed schools to begin direct revenue-sharing and pay athletes directly out of athletic funds.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:42 pm to bgtiger
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AI slop for you to entertain, jackass.
Why are you so angry
This issue had been going through the courts for years before all of the stuff you want to blame it on. NCAA knew this had been a looming issue for years and ignored it. But yeah, it was because of the woke mob that all this happened.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 1:48 pm to Salviati
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Athletes are "labor."
bullshite.
quote:
The NCAA was acting as a cartel that limited the labor market for athletes.
bullshite.
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The SCOTUS
Full of bullshite.
College sports was never meant to be a profession for the students - just like college itself it’s development for a future career. Just because the professionals who run the programs and teams make money doesn’t mean the students should.
Does the fact that professors get paid mean that every student in their classes should also be compensated?
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:02 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Notice how everyone that pulls out the “the scholarship wasn’t equivalent to the work or time they put in or their market value” line fails to mention the access to world class facilities, world class coaching, and branding/name recognition benefits that come with the quantifiable dollars associated with the direct school benefits?
The players never wanted to explore how the market actually valued them because they aren’t as naive as the bleeding heart fans, lawmakers, and judges they managed to hoodwink. Deep down they know their NIL as an 18-22 year old athlete isn’t actually worth jack shite unless they are in one of the big pro leagues or in the NCAA. Since everyone involved was too chicken shite to challenge the pro leagues they decided the NCAA is the landscape to have their cake and eat it too.
The players never wanted to explore how the market actually valued them because they aren’t as naive as the bleeding heart fans, lawmakers, and judges they managed to hoodwink. Deep down they know their NIL as an 18-22 year old athlete isn’t actually worth jack shite unless they are in one of the big pro leagues or in the NCAA. Since everyone involved was too chicken shite to challenge the pro leagues they decided the NCAA is the landscape to have their cake and eat it too.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:06 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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If they made randomized names and numbers and appearances the crowdsourcers would have just needed to do a little more work and they would have been able to say that wasn't the real players in the factory settings.
Exactly.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:13 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:Argue with the SCOTUS and every judge in the land.quote:bullshite.
Athletes are "labor."
quote:Argue with the SCOTUS and every judge in the land.quote:bullshite.
The NCAA was acting as a cartel that limited the labor market for athletes.
quote:Ohhhhh, I think I see the problem. You hate the rule of law. Perhaps you'd prefer . . . ANARCHY.quote:Full of bullshite.
The SCOTUS
quote:I won't argue this point, but athletes have been paid to play college sports since at least the turn of the century. The 1908 LSU football team even had accusations of paying athletes.
College sports was never meant to be a profession for the students
quote:Are the students conducting an activity that takes tremendous amounts of time and effort that results in the school making hundreds of millions of dollars and an industry making billions of dollars? If so, then the answer is probably yes. But you know, check with the SCOTUS and every judge in the land.
Does the fact that professors get paid mean that every student in their classes should also be compensated?
Posted on 8/28/26 at 2:23 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Does the fact that professors get paid mean that every student in their classes should also be compensated?
If the professor is using their labor to generate millions of dollars that would not be generated without their labor? Yes.
Two things can be true.
1. People were benefiting from what these players were doing, and the players deserved a slice of the pie from people who were making money from their name, image, and likeness at the very least.
2. The reason that was prohibited was so that schools couldn't use that as an excuse to pay for play. And events have shown they were not wrong to worry about that aspect of it.
I'll add that I have no solution to get us back to what it was (not sure I really want that, if I'm being honest) nor do I think that is possible.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:18 pm to savecf101
quote:This
Failure of bad leaders at the NCAA is mostly to blame.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The entire insanity of college sports has occurred because the NCAA would not let players get a few bucks from a basketball video game.
There's no way you believe that.
Was it the first shoe to drop? Sure. Would any of what we've seen not happened if the NCAA had "let players get a few bucks from a basketball video game". Of course not. That's absurd.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:24 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
Ed and his brother Charlie
Posted on 8/28/26 at 3:48 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:That sounds cut and dry, but it isn't.
just like college itself it’s development for a future career. Just because the professionals who run the programs and teams make money doesn’t mean the students should.
Livvy Dunne came to LSU with a social media business already intact. By the time she was on campus, she had roughly 3 million TikTok followers. A 2021 report estimated that, with her 1+ million Instagram followers, Dunne could command up to $250,000 per sponsored post. NCAA rules prohibited her from monetizing her name, image and likeness.
ESPN reported that despite having 4.7 million combined TikTok/Instagram followers by early 2021, Livvy had made “not a single dollar” from her following at LSU. Following the NIL change mid-2021, she immediately collected several six-digit offers and additionally, within a month or two, she was Vuori's national model at ~$350K/yr.
That is money which the NCAA forced her to piss away for her first year-and-a-half at LSU, all while she was driving money-making business to NCAA women's sports as an All-American gymnast.
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