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re: Not an excuse, a fact. The refs changed the outcome of this game.

Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:49 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:49 am to
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Why would answer your question when I asked mine first?

I already did. There is no perfectly called game. Both teams got bad calls or no calls in real time last night.

People are just being emotional because LSU lost to an unranked opponent and there are a lot of questions about Kiffin and Baker AND there is a framing bias because a few pro-LSU calls got reversed with replay, so those same LSU fans are discounting these calls when that's not rational.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:49 am to
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It is not a "fact" to say LSU would have won if it weren't for the officials - all we can say is a couple of things would have played out differently.

Posted by how333
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:49 am to
SEC/SEC officiating = corrupt
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:50 am to
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“Use of the crown” is subjectively enforceable.

Using the crown is a fact

It's a binary factual determination. There is no subjectivity involved. The crown is a defined variable, which is another factual scenario.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:50 am to
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Refs suck at their jobs. Water is wet.
LSU Lost the rushing yards total and turnovers 3-0 teams that lose those two stats lose 98% of all football games at any level... that's not on the refs...

LSU also had the most procedural penalities(false starts, illegal sub and illegal formation.... that is also not on the refs.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:51 am to
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I already did. There is no perfectly called game. Both teams got bad calls or no calls in real time last night.


No, you didn’t. I asked a very specific question:

When is the last time an offense went an entire game without a penalty assessed.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:51 am to
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illegal sub and illegal formation.... that is also not on the refs



Aren’t you a ref?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:51 am to
SFP’s perfect Sunday morning: choking down a double McGriddle, testing his chair’s weight limit, and explaining to pissed off LSU fans why he’s smarter than everyone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:52 am to
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LSU Lost the rushing yards total and turnovers 3-0 teams that lose those two stats lose 98% of all football games at any level... that's not on the refs...

LSU also had the most procedural penalities(false starts, illegal sub and illegal formation.... that is also not on the refs.


UK missed 2 FGS (one a chip shot) and went for 4th once when they could have kicked another FG.

LSU had to use trick plays TWICE last night to score
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:52 am to
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Using the crown is a fact


We’ve already established you don’t know the difference between fact and opinion. This just cements it.

quote:

It's a binary factual determination. There is no subjectivity involved. The crown is a defined variable, which is another factual scenario.




And now you’re doubling down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
485056 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:52 am to
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When is the last time an offense went an entire game without a penalty assessed.

I don't know. I assume multiple teams had that happen yesterday
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:52 am to
If they would’ve gotten one or two holding calls or a block in the back hole that changes that, of the game, honestly. The holding calls would force them into longer distance downs, which they are not successful in.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:53 am to
I’m just gonna start making his posts for him since it’s completely obvious every fricking time

“Most of the board thinks this? Hmm let me go the other way”
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
54480 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:53 am to
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I don't know. I assume multiple teams had that happen yesterday


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485056 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:54 am to
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We’ve already established you don’t know the difference between fact and opinion. This just cements it.


You're making no defenses of your arguments.

The crown is defined using facts. It's " the portion of the helmet above the facemask." That's not an opinion.

This is the same silliness of you not understanding targeting isn't subjective, either.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
54480 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:54 am to
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LSU also had the most procedural penalities(false starts, illegal sub and illegal formation.... that is also not on the refs.


When is the last time an offense played an entire game with 0 penalties assessed?

Is that something that’s common?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:54 am to
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already did. There is no perfectly called game. Both teams got bad calls or no calls in real time last night.


That is fine.

But the bad calls against Kentucky all got overturned.

The bad calls against LSU resulted in Kentucky points.

The bad calls were not equal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:55 am to
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I’m just gonna start making his posts for him since it’s completely obvious every fricking time

“Most of the board thinks this? Hmm let me go the other way”

This is like last night in the real game thread people talking about how nervous they were and I commented my heart rate just went from 79 to...80
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485056 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:55 am to
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But the bad calls against Kentucky all got overturned.

That's irrelevant when arguing the refs were against LSU because that argument is based on their calls in real time.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 8:55 am to
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Point blank we win that game if it is officiated fairly that’s not an excuse it’s a fact!

Stating “it’s a fact” does not make it a fact sorry.

It’s an excuse.
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