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re: McMahon better recruit elite players
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:11 am to saltytiger2
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:11 am to saltytiger2
Wade is dead....acceptance.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:44 am to Lester Earl
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should have hired jbeard then! Anyone but mcloser! Fatt Scottie made a huge mistake!!
/s
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:51 am to 00 Tech Grad
Mac needs some help. I’d like to see them bring Trent Johnson back as the recruiting coordinator.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:53 am to TheWalrus
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I doubt he gets transfers as good as Wright and Baker.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:54 am to TigerinKorea
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His teams consistently got run out of the gym by Nate Oats.
Wade's last 3 against Bama:
79-80
67-70
80-77
McMahon's last 3 against Bama:
66-106
69-79
88-109
Some of you would prefer to lose every game than admit Woodward screwed up.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:07 am to 00 Tech Grad
This season built some my hope up. He got some solid players from the portal this season and went 0.500 in the SEC. That is a huge step.
But we will be losing a lot of seniors and he has his work cut out for him in recruiting and portal.
I'm hoping that players in HS see this improvement and have some confidence in the coaching. I think getting to the middle of the SEC this year was big.
LSU would've won a few more of those games without the plethora of turnovers. That has to be corrected.
But we will be losing a lot of seniors and he has his work cut out for him in recruiting and portal.
I'm hoping that players in HS see this improvement and have some confidence in the coaching. I think getting to the middle of the SEC this year was big.
LSU would've won a few more of those games without the plethora of turnovers. That has to be corrected.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:07 am to Walt OReilly
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Fire the bum. And bring back Wade This isn’t hard fat Scott. You fricked up
Our AD absolutely nailed his hires for football, baseball, and women’s bball and because basketball is still TBD this is what a portion of the fan base thinks of him
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:10 am to 00 Tech Grad
Got some talent in the portals already. Need Tasmin to start making some calls.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:15 am to Daringer
Will Wade didn't "leave", he was forced out. Whether it was warranted or not isn't the point of this.
He also had extreme success relative to what LSU basketball was for the preceding decade.
If your bar for success is the same as it is for Duke, Kansas, etc, then yeah he didn't have much success. But winning the SEC, consistent tournament play, and a sweet 16 is pretty damn good success for LSU
He also had extreme success relative to what LSU basketball was for the preceding decade.
If your bar for success is the same as it is for Duke, Kansas, etc, then yeah he didn't have much success. But winning the SEC, consistent tournament play, and a sweet 16 is pretty damn good success for LSU
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:33 am to jp4lsu
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This season built some my hope up. He got some solid players from the portal this season and went 0.500 in the SEC. That is a huge step.
But we will be losing a lot of seniors and he has his work cut out for him in recruiting and portal.
I'm hoping that players in HS see this improvement and have some confidence in the coaching. I think getting to the middle of the SEC this year was big.
It's an improvement. The question is how much does it help next season though?
LSU is definitely losing 4 players. Three of them (Wright, Baker, Hannibal) are among their 5 top scorers in SEC play. The 4th (Dean) is a guy who probably should have played much more than he did. Baker played nearly 200 more minutes than Dean did in SEC play.
It's also hard to see Cook coming back as it appears that relationship is over. He was your leading scorer in SEC play in terms of ppg. Wilkinson seem like he is leaving as well considering he participated in Senior night (compare that to Fountain, also a senior, who didn't participate)
LSU is losing much of the core of the group that finished 9-9. Best case scenario they bring back Reed, Ward, Williams, Fountain. That's a decent core to build upon. But unless Reed makes a very big jump, you're probably looking at a bottom 1/2 SEC core. The league is just that good.
The unknows are Chest, Collins, and to a lesser extent, Stewart. Maybe all three combined with what you likely return creates a really good core. But that is still a LOT of unknown. McMahon also has a couple of highly rated freshmen coming in. But in his first two years he has been reluctant to place a big load on Freshmen players. Williams this season was one of the notable exceptions. But that was more out of necessity than anything else with Cook and Stewart playing in only 13 of 32 games this year.
He has to find 2 or 3 legit players in the portal if they want to make a jump. It's unlikely the SEC schedule will be as favorable as it was this season (LSU is not going to get to play Vandy and Georgia 2x next season)
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:38 am to Alt26
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He has to find 2 or 3 legit players in the portal if they want to make a jump. It's unlikely the SEC schedule will be as favorable as it was this season (LSU is not going to get to play Vandy and Georgia 2x next season)
He has to get a PG out of the portal, I don’t think there is any way around it. I agree, I don’t have any sauces, but I don’t believe cook will be back.
Reed is frustrating because you can see the talent, but his head seems to be in the clouds half of the time
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:51 am to Mats86
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He has to get a PG out of the portal, I don’t think there is any way around it. I agree, I don’t have any sauces, but I don’t believe cook will be back.
Reed is frustrating because you can see the talent, but his head seems to be in the clouds half of the time
In his short time at LSU he has shown he strongly values two types of players. (1) A PG who can essentially create the offense off ball screens, and (2) A "stretch 5" big man with 3 point range.
LSU doesn't have #1 on that list for next season, so that will have to be their first priority. However, he may want to consider revising his preference for No. 2. Sure, it is great to have a big who can stretch the defense. But LSU's had two of those guys (Williams and Baker) and didn't do all that much with it (their offensive efficiency has been in the 100s each season. That's awful) Yes, there were games where Baker had a good night scoring. But his deficiencies elsewhere often offset the occasional good nights shooting. You saw yesterday how much more efficient LSU's offense seemed to be with a more physical/"traditional" 5 (Dean).
If you can find and bring in the next KJ Williams, GREAT! But I don't think I would settle for a "stretch 5" over a much better, but more traditional 5, just because a stretch 5 is your preference. In other words, get the best players you can and tailor your approach to play to THEIR strengths. Don't just go hunting for guys to fit your preferred style and bypass better players because of it.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:54 am to Mats86
It is frustrating because even though Miss St is a bad matchup for us we easily could have won that game if Wright and Reed just have an average game. Just the missed shots at goal would have been the difference. That is not coaching. The TO need to be addressed as they could have had a double digit lead at half. Did a much better job in second half with only 6 but still couldn't finish at the rim. I agree Dean should have played more but Cook going south really screwed this team. I agree portal will be huge for next year and he will need to nail the PG spot and a rim protector/rebounders. Maybe Chest and Collins will be the guys along with Reed if he can ever get his head out of his arse. I heard Stewart is recovering and wants to come back. Get another 2 guard and this team should be more competitive next year with the freshmen they have coming in.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:11 am to Alt26
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he unknows are Chest, Collins, and to a lesser extent, Stewart.
Unfortunately, I saw very little in Stewart in the games he played that gave me much confidence in him being a significant contributor.
Maybe he was hurt? Maybe he'll develop and improve?
Collins was too small a sample size, but he did seem very slight in stature and we got pushed around enough this past year.
I hear good things Re: Chest, but nothing to go by enough to give me warm fuzzies, so we'll just have to wait and see.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:14 am to mcspufftiger7
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It is frustrating because even though Miss St is a bad matchup for us
Why is State a bad matchup for LSU?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:17 am to 00 Tech Grad
Good call Columbo. You should consider going into coaching.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:18 am to mcspufftiger7
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Get another 2 guard and this team should be more competitive next year with the freshmen they have coming in.
I just think we'll need more than that to improve on this year. I really don't think Stewart is that good for us. He didn't do anything when he was healthy, and I would think if CMM can upgrade from him on the portal he will. As of now Ward should lead the teams in FGA which is fine with me he seems to have grown into a strong SEC player, I'd like to say the same thing with Reed but he is just to inconsistent right now for me to rely fully on next season.
If we don't have a better center than Baker next season we are pretty cooked anyway so I am assuming that is priority number 1 in the off season, but we have a good bit of Depth for size.
All that to say we don't need to get complimentary pieces for next season, we need guys who can START we have good enough pieces coming off the bench (Credit to CMM n staff) So we are in a better position and hopefully it pays off being able to focus on some big time names.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:27 am to Alt26
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Why is State a bad matchup for LSU?
They bullied us both games.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:28 am to Alt26
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Why is State a bad matchup for LSU?
They're one of the best defensive teams in the conference, if not the country, run a great zone D, have a lot of length, and have a small quick guard who can shoot.
1) Our bigs are slow and not good passers
2) We have no true PG and no one on the team is a good ball handler.
3) we struggle scoring period, but especially in the half court.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:33 am to The Pirate King
He knows that, I think he's asking some sort of leading question to type out four paragraphs to basically say LSU needs to get more physical players to match up with their style and hopefully they do that! We have got to get in the personnel where we can dictate the terms of games and not play everyone else's game. That's 100% on the staff
State also has the benefit of guys that have played together for a long time now. Moore, Matthews, Murphy, Jefferies, and Smith have been there together for three years and that's 5 of their top 7 minutes leaders. Adding in a guy that can get his and playing with confidence in Hubbard and they are very tough.
State also has the benefit of guys that have played together for a long time now. Moore, Matthews, Murphy, Jefferies, and Smith have been there together for three years and that's 5 of their top 7 minutes leaders. Adding in a guy that can get his and playing with confidence in Hubbard and they are very tough.
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