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re: LSU is the best fielding team in the country
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:07 am to asullivan12
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:07 am to asullivan12
Thompson and Merrifield were starting last year. Thompson had a rough go but it looked like Merrifield had jitters going from small school ball to the Box.
White and Nippolt have been upgrades at third. Thompson has worked out whatever kinks he had last year. Dugas has been a pleasant surprise in the field at second.
White and Nippolt have been upgrades at third. Thompson has worked out whatever kinks he had last year. Dugas has been a pleasant surprise in the field at second.
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:07 am to asullivan12
The scary part is they are doing that while still sacrificing defense for offense at several positions: Neal at C, Dugas at 2B, White at 3B (for a hot minute), Jones at 1B.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:07 am to Mickey Goldmill
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At the 13 game mark last season, we had 26
Not sure why people are throwing out small formulaic factors when this is the astounding part. Why can we not just admit our team is fielding much better.
At times last year it looked like the 3 stooges out there in the field.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:10 am to Ignignot
Compare it to the starting pitching from last year and that's your answer
Thompson and Nippolt were picking everything last night and the only error was a tough play that Nippolt made a valient effort
Thompson and Nippolt were picking everything last night and the only error was a tough play that Nippolt made a valient effort
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:18 am to IM_4_LSU
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When you strike a lot of guys out that also helps the defensive statistics.
Apparently not for...
Miami (OH) K's/9- 2nd, Fld% 232nd
UTRGV- k's/9- 4th, Fld% 137th
Florida- k's/9- 5th, Fld% 71st
State- k's/9- 6th, Fld% 251st
etc.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:18 am to nicholastiger
Thompson sailed a throw to first trying to make a double play. I thought he might get tagged with an error on that throw.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:21 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Off the top of my head, we've struck out maybe 20 more batters this year than at this point last year. That's 20 less balls in play. That's not a staggering number. Our fielding % this year compared to this point last year.....that's a staggering number!
We’re clearly much better fielding the ball.
“we strike out more batter” is the new “Joe didn’t know his WRs names in 2018”
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:26 am to UpToPar
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The scary part is they are doing that while still sacrificing defense for offense at several positions: Neal at C, Dugas at 2B, White at 3B (for a hot minute), Jones at 1B.
Neal was an unknown, but not considered to be a defensive sacrifice. The questions were about receiving and handling the staff, which he's answered well.
Dugas' defensive reputation has been unfairly maligned. He moved to the OF to get his bat in the line up when we had other infielders that were less defensively versatile, and then he had a few goofy plays in left field. But his infield defense was never an issue.
Jones is definitely a step down from Morgan, but he's big, athletic, and coachable. The step down isn't all that drastic, to be honest.
And White is still just an unknown. But feel pretty comfortable he's better at 3rd than Berry was. Even if he's not necessarily the best fielding 3B on our roster.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:35 am to IM_4_LSU
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But its also 20 extra PO's
There are always 27 putouts per 9 innings no matter how the outs are achieved. You can make the argument that the FPct on strikeouts is much closer to 1.000 (though PBs will make it not necessarily 1.000), but K’s are NOT extra PO’s.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:47 am to MikeTheTiger71
The only thing a strike out does is take the opportunity of an assist away. Which yes gives a team a better chance at an error but if done correctly it adds one more data points to the “opportunities” side of the equation along with the put out. Meanwhile if it’s an error it counts as an error but there will still be 3 put outs in that inning.
All that to continue to say the less strikeouts will not effect the overall fielding percentage very much if at all.
All that to continue to say the less strikeouts will not effect the overall fielding percentage very much if at all.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:48 am to liquid rabbit
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Thompson sailed a throw to first trying to make a double play. I thought he might get tagged with an error on that throw.
I didn’t see the play but if they got the out and then no runners advanced after the sailed throw to first it isn’t an error.
You can’t assume a double play.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:49 am to asullivan12
Actually it is .990 now.
But...the point is well taken. LSU has played great TEAM defense.
Last night was a perfect example. Nippolt was charged with an error on that hot grounder. However, there were 2 other plays where he made poor throws to first but Beloso dug them out to save the throwing error.
I have been really impressed with the play at 1B. Beloso and Jones have both been excellent. Ironically, it is Morgan who has the only error at first base so far this year.
But...the point is well taken. LSU has played great TEAM defense.
Last night was a perfect example. Nippolt was charged with an error on that hot grounder. However, there were 2 other plays where he made poor throws to first but Beloso dug them out to save the throwing error.
I have been really impressed with the play at 1B. Beloso and Jones have both been excellent. Ironically, it is Morgan who has the only error at first base so far this year.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:52 am to MikeTheTiger71
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There are always 27 putouts per 9 innings no matter how the outs are achieved.
If you are the away team and lose it’s only 24 put outs but your point still stands. I’m just a stickler for technicalities.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:01 am to geauxtigers33
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The only thing a strike out does is take the opportunity of an assist away.
It takes away the ‘chance’ all together
An assist is just part of the chance
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:20 am to Lester Earl
I mean I suppose you are right got me there that’s not really the point I was trying to make and honestly I don’t even remember lol.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:34 am to liquid rabbit
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Thompson sailed a throw to first trying to make a double play. I thought he might get tagged with an error on that throw.
Did the runner advance to 2nd? If not, no error. If so, error.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:58 am to MikeTheTiger71
I’m not saying a K is an extra PO to the 27 per 9 innings. You’re looking to argue over a little word. A K is an easier putout than balls in play. My comment about extra 20 putouts was not saying extra to the 27 per 9 innings. My point has and will remain having a high K number from your pitching staff helps the fielding %.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:10 am to Lester Earl
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It takes away the ‘chance’ all together
An assist is just part of the chance
Fielding percentage is not chance/errors. It is assist + putout/errors.
On one play you can have an assist or even more than one and a put out. All the assists and the putout on the play go into the fielding percentage stat.
A strikeout can also have an assist if it’s a dropped third strike and the catcher throws to first. Catcher gets the assist and 1B gets the putout.
Also if a player throws to first and the first baseman drops the ball the player throwing the ball still gets an assist and the 1B gets an error.
ETA: correction the formula is divided by chances (putouts+assists+errors).
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 11:14 am
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:18 am to geauxtigers33
Chances are as important to FLD% as at bats are to batting average. C’mon man smh
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:35 am to liquid rabbit
It's not an error. You never assume a double play. If an errant throw misses the runner at first, its not an error if the out was made at second. If however, the runner at first advanced to second on the errant throw, then its an error.
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