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re: Jordan Rodgers says Joe Brady best new young "playcaller"
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:18 am to BayouCowboy
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:18 am to BayouCowboy
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I'm glad you found the quote, but isn't that pretty much what I said?
Partially. But there's also the part about where Ensminger can either take Brady's suggestion(s) or go his own direction. Which means Ensminger is the one who decides what play we run and is the play-caller.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:19 am to BayouCowboy
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I'm glad you found the quote, but isn't that pretty much what I said?
The problem is with people who this Brady "having the next play ready" means he's giving Ensminger the play call.
That's not what's happening. Brady is giving Ensminger recommendations on plays that can be run, while Ensminger has his own ideas. Ensminger then makes the decision on what will be run.
That makes Ensminger the swinging dick in the box, not Brady. Ensminger is the play caller.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:21 am to lsu2006
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is the primary play-caller.
FIFY
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:22 am to RB10
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That's not what's happening. Brady is giving Ensminger recommendations on plays that can be run, while Ensminger has his own ideas. Ensminger then makes the decision on what will be run.
That makes Ensminger the swinging dick in the box, not Brady. Ensminger is the play caller.
All you need to ask yourself is this; who has veto power?
That guy is the decision maker, and the play caller.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:24 am to TigerLunatik
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Jordan Rodgers says Joe Brady best new young "playcaller"
Ensminger is still here to call the plays, Brady is here to help develop the new offense. His responsibilities may increase in the future into calling plays and perhaps even take over as OC at some point in the future.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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is the primary play-caller.
FIFY
"Nope. Youre just hung up on your silly semantics."
Your own fricking words Roger. Jesus dude.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:25 am to RB10
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That makes Ensminger the swinging dick in the box, not Brady. Ensminger is the play caller.
Kind of why I said:
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I also believe it was stated SE is the play caller
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:32 am to BayouCowboy
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BayouCowboy
I was agreeing with you. Just giving you the exact quote rather than the, well, inaccurate version you're getting from others.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Is Brady a playcaller? Absolutely. Is he THE playcaller? Not yet. But probably will play a larger role as the season progresses.
He'll probably help develop the game plan with Ensminger and suggest plays during the game in addition to helping develop and shape the offense. He will gradually play a larger and larger role and it seems the plan is for him to eventually take over as OC if all goes accordingly. I think Ensminger is still the OC and play caller .
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:58 am to RB10
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“Steve’s going to call the plays,” Coach O said
hmm, sounds like Steve's going to call the plays
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:02 pm to TigerLunatik
i have said similar things.
we know O likes to meddle
we know E cannot beat Saban alone.
o line and receivers have had issues last two years.
it is basically brady or bust regardless if he has never been a OC or not. so i hope and pray he knocks it out the park and we win a title. how much leeway will brady have? not carte blanche. shite O would not give canada or E that.
here is to hoping
we know O likes to meddle
we know E cannot beat Saban alone.
o line and receivers have had issues last two years.
it is basically brady or bust regardless if he has never been a OC or not. so i hope and pray he knocks it out the park and we win a title. how much leeway will brady have? not carte blanche. shite O would not give canada or E that.
here is to hoping
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:22 pm to TigerLunatik
He is just throwing shite on the wall so he can claim credit if Brady works out. Because there is no way he can know this when Brady has never called plays, been a coordinator. I hope he will be and expect good things but this is pure speculation.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When Ensminger said Brady will indeed pick plays?
E can override, but Brady will be processing the sequence.
Here is the exact quote.
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“Steve’s going to call the plays,” Coach O said. “Joe is going to have the next play ready. If Steve wants it, he takes it. If he wants to call his own play, he’ll call his own play. I think that’s going to be a big plus for us.”
Eta: Sorry, I'm just catching up to the thread. Didn't realize this had already been posted.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Brady is much more familiar with the type of offense we are installing than Ensminger,
well thats very reassuring
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:38 pm to TigerLunatik
He's not calling the plays though.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:49 pm to tmjones2
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It's almost as bad as when I hear people talk about how Sark is going to be good for Tua. There is absolutely zero evidence to support that other "well Saban likes him so he must know what he was doing".
i mean dude was only QB coach/OC/Head Coach for 4 first round QBs without Saban.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:49 pm to dgnx6
I don't believe I ever said he did. I've been busy as shite this morning. I apologize if I mispoke.
But, just to play Devil's advocate, what if Brady suggests a play and that's the play called, who is the one that called the play?
But, just to play Devil's advocate, what if Brady suggests a play and that's the play called, who is the one that called the play?
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:51 pm to TigerLunatik
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But, just to play Devil's advocate, what if Brady suggests a play and that's the play called, who is the one that called the play?
The man who decides to run the play or not. That's Ensminger.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:53 pm to TigerLunatik
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But, just to play Devil's advocate, what if Brady suggests a play and that's the play called, who is the one that called the play?
If a CEO listens to one of his advisors and he executes that plan exactly as it was suggested, is the advisor the actual decision maker? No.
The guy that can veto the suggestion and go with his own call ultimately is the decision-maker. In this case, that guy is the play caller. I think we all know this. The role of decision-maker/play caller doesn't change based on who actually suggested the plan of action.
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