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re: Jordan Rodgers says Joe Brady best new young "playcaller"

Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:22 am to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:22 am to
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It's guessing.


OK. In that case, I apologize for making a somewhat educated guess about an LSU sports-related topic on an LSU sports message board. Exactly what his influence will be is still very much unknown. I'm just making my guesses based on the fact that Brady has never been a play-caller and based on what the coaches, namely O, have said:
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“Joe put in a lot of plays,” Orgeron said, while stressing that it is still Ensminger’s offense to call.

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“Steve’s going to call the plays,” Coach O said. “Joe is going to have the next play ready. If Steve wants it, he takes it. If he wants to call his own play, he’ll call his own play. I think that’s going to be a big plus for us.”

It's clear he will have some kind of impact. Point is that calling him a play-caller may be a stretch and not really a good indication of his role.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:24 am to
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Brady is making suggestions but Ensminger is the man actually calling the plays.


Ensminger is the primary, for now. It will not end that way.

The offense will be designed primarily by Brady. He will be in the booth and will be handing off plays to Ensminger.

Who's actually "calling the plays" is semantics. I'm sure as the season progresses Brady will assume more of a role.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:26 am to
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Ensminger is the primary, for now. It will not end that way.

The offense will be designed primarily by Brady. He will be in the booth and will be handing off plays to Ensminger.

Who's actually "calling the plays" is semantics. I'm sure as the season progresses Brady will assume more of a role.


So Orgeron was lying when he said it was Steve’s offense and he would be deciding which play is actually called?

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:27 am to
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Ensminger is the primary, for now. It will not end that way.

The offense will be designed primarily by Brady. He will be in the booth and will be handing off plays to Ensminger.

Who's actually "calling the plays" is semantics. I'm sure as the season progresses Brady will assume more of a role.

It kind of sounds like you're the one who is "guessing" here.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:27 am to
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So who’s calling the plays for LSU? Ensminger or Brady?


Ensminger communicates the play to the sideline. Brady is the one actually deciding what the play will be.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:27 am to
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Say what y’all want, but Coach O has brought LSU back into the national conversation

I like Coach O and think this team has a lot of potential, but being in the national conversation is different from being in the actual hunt. We were in the national conversation big-time in Miles last year until we played a game. We can't keep laying total eggs against Bama or looking so lackluster against UF.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:28 am to
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It kind of sounds like you're the one who is "guessing" here.


100% the case.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:28 am to
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I'm just pointing out he has always been the low man on the totem pole and hasn't been as involved in the major offensive decisions as people would like to believe.


Ha Ha Ha!!! ALWAYS been the low man on the totem pole. Ha Ha Ha!!!

The article I linked had the title of:
"How 'rising star' Joe Brady shot up the coaching ranks to LSU in 6 years"

In what took forever and then what felt like another 20 years, a guy goes from graduating college in 2013 to being on the New Orleans Saints staff in 2017. (WHY SO LONG??? Must have a learning disability. From graduate to a member on an NFL staff to take that long is ludicrous.)

Then after another century or a few decades at least they guy is named Passing Game Coordinator/Wide Receivers coach of a currently top-10 college football program in 2019. (The guy is definitely on a slow-motion trajectory for a coaching career if I have ever seen one).

Glad someone pointed out he has ALWAYS been the low man at ALL of his many, many, many jobs over the many, many, many years and decades.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:29 am to
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Ensminger communicates the play to the sideline. Brady is the one actually deciding what the play will be.


So you’re calling Orgeron a liar as well?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:30 am to
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Ensminger communicates the play to the sideline. Brady is the one actually deciding what the play will be.


That's what Ensminger said

Is Brady a playcaller? Absolutely. Is he THE playcaller? Not yet. But probably will play a larger role as the season progresses.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:31 am to
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Tiger Ree


Yikes
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:31 am to
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That's what Ensminger said Is Brady a playcaller?

Absolutely. Is he THE playcaller? Not yet. But probably will play a larger role as the season progresses.


Can you provide a link or quote to any of this? Seems like you’re just making shite up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:32 am to
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It kind of sounds like you're the one who is "guessing" here.


Everyone is guessing. No one knows how the role will progress. That's exactly what I said earlier

But Brady is absolutely a playcaller. Ensminger said it himself
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:33 am to
I mean... I just posted direct quotes from the head coach saying that it's Ensminger's offense and he will be calling plays. He can listen to suggestions from Brady and go with it or call his own plays. In any event, it seems clear that Brady will be given at least a slight measure of deference and he will have his finger prints on the gameplan and the passing game at large. I would struggle to classify him as a play-caller.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:34 am to
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Everyone is guessing.


Speak for yourself. I'm not guessing, I'm going by what the head coach said.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:36 am to
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I mean... I just posted direct quotes from the head coach saying that it's Ensminger's offense and he will be calling plays.


Ed’s obviously wrong here. Roger has corrected it for him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:36 am to
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"You know, Steve's getting older now," Orgeron said. "Joe's 28. They lean on each other. Joe is tremendous in the meeting room. When Steve has a question, Joe always seems to have an answer. They're up in the press box. Steve is calling the plays, but you know what? Joe has the next play ready for him. If he needs Joe, Joe is going to give it to him."


I think saying he's not a playcaller is nitpicking. Ensminger is still the OC, will be communicating the plays, but sounds like Brady is making some of the decisions.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:39 am to
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I think saying he's not a playcaller is nitpicking.

OK. So it's cool if you make all kinds of guesses about Brady's role and how it will evolve over the course of the season but when I make a guess about his role based on the words of the head coach it's "nitpicking". Got it
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:39 am to
Sounds like Joe is sometimes making suggestions.

See this is what I'm talking about. You know what a play-caller is but you're using tortured logic to try to be right. The play-caller is the guy who decides what play is being called. Period.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 10:40 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:40 am to
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Ensminger is still the OC, will be communicating the plays, but sounds like Brady is making some of the decisions.


quote:

Steve is calling the plays, but you know what? Joe has the next play ready for him. If he needs Joe, Joe is going to give it to him."




Brady is making suggestions. Ensminger is making decisions.

Pretty much the exact opposite of what you tried to say just a few posts ago.
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