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re: Is Peyton “Pop” Houston the real deal
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:38 am to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:38 am to LSUAlum2001
I’m hoping he’s great but Evangel passing stats are always high as they throw almost every down, but have always respected the way they schedule tough 5A schools etc
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Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:07 pm to KCSunshine
He’s a stud and I wouldn’t worry about him not holding firm in his commitment . You rarely need to worry about elite LA talent not staying true to their commitment even in this NIL era those kids grow up bleeding purple and gold and dreaming of playing in Death Valley
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:57 pm to KCSunshine
Posted on 8/20/26 at 11:01 pm to KCSunshine
My crew had his scrimmage against Parkway tonight. Go the play with about 4:20 left in the game. Athleticism is off the charts and his arm looks stronger than last year.
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:13 am to JayVegas702
“And he just ran 500 yards.” 
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:14 am to thunderbird1100
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What the data shows is it's extremely unlikely he would ever be a 1st rounder, but what the data also shows is 2 QBs in the last 7 draft classes at his height were also drafted in the 1st round, so it's trended up at least
It used to be that every NFL team wanted to protect the QB in the pocket. QBs scrambled only as a last resort. Under that system, height was far more important.. It’s still important, but it can be overcome by today’s more mobile QBs.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 6:06 am to KCSunshine
Why is that Elijah kid from Baton Rouge such a ****?
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:00 am to JayVegas702
I’m a Pop guy. Let’s get that out of the way. Feel free to check the tape.
But that play isn’t all that special. He’s the best athlete on the field & lines up 9yds behind center; the natural runway he gets instances like this is a cheat code. Defenders turn their back, & he turns it into a well blocked & glorified punt return.
The one thing I worry about Pop is the dependency of the broken play. 10years ago this was all the rage, broken plays & off platform throws. But I think it has sort of overcorrected itself when high school QBs who are great athletes started to use it as a crutch. A lot of these kids have no interest playing in rhythm from the pocket.
It’s easy for someone like Pop to immediately run from the pocket & make plays in the air & ground. And don’t get me wrong, you have to be able to do this. But you have to be able to play within the structure too.
Nussmeier was guilty of this. He was never able to develop a true pocket presence because he was so used to running off script & developed it as an easy way to make plays in high school. So his first instinct in college was to always circle out & try and get on that same runway. You have to be able to do both
But that play isn’t all that special. He’s the best athlete on the field & lines up 9yds behind center; the natural runway he gets instances like this is a cheat code. Defenders turn their back, & he turns it into a well blocked & glorified punt return.
The one thing I worry about Pop is the dependency of the broken play. 10years ago this was all the rage, broken plays & off platform throws. But I think it has sort of overcorrected itself when high school QBs who are great athletes started to use it as a crutch. A lot of these kids have no interest playing in rhythm from the pocket.
It’s easy for someone like Pop to immediately run from the pocket & make plays in the air & ground. And don’t get me wrong, you have to be able to do this. But you have to be able to play within the structure too.
Nussmeier was guilty of this. He was never able to develop a true pocket presence because he was so used to running off script & developed it as an easy way to make plays in high school. So his first instinct in college was to always circle out & try and get on that same runway. You have to be able to do both
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:03 am to Lester Earl
Ok
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:33 am to KCSunshine
He better be because both staffs put all their eggs in his basket for this recruiting cycle.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:53 am to JayVegas702
Was he playing the 85 Bears? 6 points with 4:00 left in the game? 
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:57 am to KCSunshine
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Is Peyton “Pop” Houston the real deal
How could anyone know this yet? Ask again in 3 years
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:12 am to Lester Earl
I agree with this, Pop has played defenses that are incapable of playing zones correctly, when he has been playing more complex schemes he has not faired as well. Shreveport football is very weak defensively in talent and scheme.
I think he has all the tools and have been a staunch advocate of his, but there is some concern on how he will play in a different system. As you described, Evangel is pretty unique.
I think he has all the tools and have been a staunch advocate of his, but there is some concern on how he will play in a different system. As you described, Evangel is pretty unique.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:25 am to thunderbird1100
That basis for rating players has a lot of holes in it. Not only does it make for a timetable that is too far off in the future, but that basis sets itself up to theoretically miss a bunch of good college players that don't necessarily translate to the next level for one reason or another.
Tebow is a good example in theory, although, everyone had him rated extremely high. Sam Olajubutu is a more under-the-radar guy that always comes to mind for me when I think about how flawed this premise is.
Then there have been a bunch of good QBs under 6'. Young, Murray, and Wilson have been mentioned. Joe Hamilton, Todd Reesing (2006-09 Kansas), Stetson Bennett -- those guys were extremely good college players who QBed some of the best seasons for their programs this mellinium. That they didn't have major impacts in the NFL doesn't take away from how effective they were in college.
Tebow is a good example in theory, although, everyone had him rated extremely high. Sam Olajubutu is a more under-the-radar guy that always comes to mind for me when I think about how flawed this premise is.
Then there have been a bunch of good QBs under 6'. Young, Murray, and Wilson have been mentioned. Joe Hamilton, Todd Reesing (2006-09 Kansas), Stetson Bennett -- those guys were extremely good college players who QBed some of the best seasons for their programs this mellinium. That they didn't have major impacts in the NFL doesn't take away from how effective they were in college.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
I totally get that argument Les. He's gonna need some time to figure out how to run a offense and make throws within the pocket. But he's got all the intelligence, drive and work ethic to do so. The kid is an impressive person in general out side of all the athlete stuff.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:07 am to DalenSA
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Was he playing the 85 Bears? 6 points with 4:00 left in the game?
Timed portion of a scrimmage likely. Scrimmages have all different types of formats. They may have played one timed quarter. Somebody at the scrimmage can likely give us context.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:15 am to NussBusDriver
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Timed portion of a scrimmage likely. Scrimmages have all different types of formats. They may have played one timed quarter. Somebody at the scrimmage can likely give us context.
Is that why he was 10 yards deep in the pocket
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:25 am to LSUdude247
It will be an adjustment for him to stay in pocket more or just roll out and throw vs taking off as much as he does. he will have more stable protection in college and will adjust to the system. has all the tools though to excel in our offensive system
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:34 pm to John Rambeaux
And if your mom would’ve had sex with me I’d be your daddy
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:59 pm to inadaze
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That basis for rating players has a lot of holes in it. Not only does it make for a timetable that is too far off in the future, but that basis sets itself up to theoretically miss a bunch of good college players that don't necessarily translate to the next level for one reason or another.
Tebow is a good example in theory, although, everyone had him rated extremely high. Sam Olajubutu is a more under-the-radar guy that always comes to mind for me when I think about how flawed this premise is.
Then there have been a bunch of good QBs under 6'. Young, Murray, and Wilson have been mentioned. Joe Hamilton, Todd Reesing (2006-09 Kansas), Stetson Bennett -- those guys were extremely good college players who QBed some of the best seasons for their programs this mellinium. That they didn't have major impacts in the NFL doesn't take away from how effective they were in college.
I dont disagree with any of this and have argued against how they rate players for years...it's just unfortunately how they try to "objectively" measure themselves -> rate a 5-star, he should be a 1st round pick and they "hit" if that happens. It's a simpleton method there.
There are better ways to judge college impact of players though against their high school rating than draft position though. So much of the NFL is projection in the end and you'll have a QB go undrafted who was super productive in college for multiple years vs. a QB go 1st or 2nd round who never really was "it" in college but has all the "tools", etc...
Things like with all due respect to Anthony Richardson being a Top 5 draft selection, does anyone think this dude lived up to being a 5-star in college? He is a sub 55% career passer, 133.6 career NCAA passer rating with 24 career TD to 15 INT. He had some rushing stats of course, but nothing crazy where he went off like a Jayden Daniels or true elite rushing QB. There are tons and tons of example of UDFA who were better college QBs than Richardson....but the rating services thin ka 3-star who goes undrafted but puts up insane college numbers was rated correctly and a 5-star who was extremely disappointing in college but got drafted in the top 5 is also rated correctly.
It doesnt make much sense. There's so many stats/advanced stats out there now it should be very easy to see how well your ratings were against THAT, not just draft position which in cases like Richardson is obviously way more speculative/subjective than basing on actual college performance/impact.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 1:00 pm
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