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memphis tiger
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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LSU now has the #3 recruiting classs


How many signed LOIs does he have?

These commitments mean jack shite until signing day.


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The Blue Stuff
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Member since Oct 2015
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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Aranda and Corey Raymond are the only coaches on staff I’d consider giving raises to.



This. NO ONE WANTS O. He did a good job this year but zero points to Bama and it's all for naught. ZERO FRICKEN POINTS


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The Pirate King
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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Aranda and Corey Raymond are the only coaches on staff I’d consider giving raises to.


Aranda should not receive another raise until the defense improves to a higher level. That’s not even debatable.


SammyTiger
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
I agree

Aranda makes enough money as is.


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Jenar Boy
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
Nor you


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boxcar willie
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kenner
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
I think he deserves a raise. He is one of the lowest paid HC's in the SEC and has proven to be a solid coach. I would hold off giving an extension until after the 2019 season however. WE need to see if he is more than just a 'solid coach' before an extension happens. He will get his chance at that in 2019 and 2020. This bowl game will have some say in all this as well. Win this bowl game and we finish in the top 10 for the first time in 7 years, lose and we end up in the mid teens. We finished the regular season at #11 in the CFP, higher than we have in a long time.


Ponchy Tiger
Army Fan
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Member since Aug 2004
32273 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
No, because their is no demand for his services. I will add why should give him a raise when he has yet to improve the program or the one the field product since he was hired. You don't a raise in real life by doing the bare minimum of your job requirements. You earn a raise by out performing your requirements.


moneyg
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Member since Jun 2006
32587 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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he deserves a raise and a big one.




nah

Orgeron's pay is appropriate (maybe high) when you consider the salary requirements of his coordinators.


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moneyg
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Member since Jun 2006
32587 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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IF we win the bowl game, I would give O the following completely new contract...

5 years at $4 mil a year with bonus structure

buyout of $1 mil per year left on contract.



I'd certainly be ok with that. Obviously, Orgeron wouldn't go for that.


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Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
His salary should be based on current market and performance...

That said he should get a raise when compared to his peers!

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CottonWasKing
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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produced a winning season, beating several ranked teams and missed having 10 regular season wins because of official malfeasence. LSU now has the #3 recruiting classs.


I don't want excuses. I want hardware.

And until Orgeron has some trophies in his Wikipedia page he can take what he has and be happy with the job or he can go frick himself.

Win a trophy then he can have a raise. End of story


Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
Cotton king ! RACIST


kpsoileau
LSU Fan
Georgetown, GA
Member since Jul 2005
98 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
jptiger: Raises are not predicated on who "wants" someone! No one wanted the Tigers either...evidence: the low national expectations. The guy you don't want turned national sneers into moderate respect. O isn't the one who has the problem; blind, selfish, prejudiced, spoiled, entitled, crass, ignorant small people do.


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Ignignot
LSU Fan
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Member since Mar 2009
15950 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
I'd allow an extension for the whole recruiting thing. But no increase of the buyout. It stays the same as is (ala still reducing year over year). But the contract would be extended another year.


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nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
Compared to his “peers”, he not entitled to a raise.


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Powerman
LSU Fan
Virginia
Member since Jan 2004
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re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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O produced a winning season, beating several ranked teams and missed having 10 regular season wins because of official malfeasence. LSU now has the #3 recruiting classs. Being the bargain basement coach that he is, he deserves a raise and a big one.


The problem with this is he sacrificed money to have higher paid coordinators

You have to look at the total staff budget. If we're required to have a defensive coordinator that earns more than most FBS coaches then the ceiling for the head coach is lower.


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HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
New Orleans Saints Fan
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
7503 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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This isn't an LSU thing, it's a college football thing. Orgeron is going to get a raise and an extension. People need to accept that, it's just the way things are in college football.


I hope everyone gets raises and extensions. Might as well go full retard now.
RIP LSU football.


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CP3forMVP
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Nov 2010
4596 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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No, because their is no demand for his services. I will add why should give him a raise when he has yet to improve the program or the one the field product since he was hired. You don't a raise in real life by doing the bare minimum of your job requirements. You earn a raise by out performing your requirements.


Because in big time college football coaches coach on 4+ year contracts and when that contract is in jeopardy of reaching 3 or less years the coach gets an extension and a raise. Again, this isn't an LSU thing, it's a college football thing. I don't see why this is so hard to grasp. LSU can't, won't, and shouldn't go against the grain in this situation.
This post was edited on 12/7 at 8:41 am


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Hammond Tiger Fan
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Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
14767 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
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What I say to that is plainly no. Why? Because LSU needs to use the common idea of demand here.

Is there a demand for Orgeron right now? No. It's rather simple.



I agree with this. Nobody is coming after Orgeron to poach him away from LSU. Orgeron knows he isn't leaving LSU. Alleva needs to grow some damn balls. Let him play out his contract and reevaluate it after it's done. If someone does happen to come after him, so be it. I believe LSU can do better anyway.


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Lonnie4LSU
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
8259 posts

re: Idea that Orgeron is owed a raise
“ he deserves a raise”

Our last coach who ended the season with three losses in a 12 game year came within a whisker of being fired, but three years later another coach in a 13 game yr with three losses deserves a raise???

No, our expectations haven’t changed at all.


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