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re: Found this legal post on the lawsuit against LSU.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:13 am to LSUTigerblood50
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:13 am to LSUTigerblood50
In layman’s terms imho:
So Louisiana got there first and told the SEC, “You can’t punish LSU for using these players.” Then the SEC ran to federal court in Alabama and tried to repackage the same fight as a First Amendment case: “We’re not arguing eligibility; LSU is forcing us to associate with conduct we reject.” LSU’s response will be: “Cute wording, but you’re still asking an Alabama judge to undo what the Louisiana judge just protected.”
Then the post says LSU can argue: “Don’t create two courts giving opposite orders. The Louisiana case was first, it’s already much farther along, and the SEC’s Alabama lawsuit looks REACTIVE and PUNITIVE ” That is a legitimate argument under the Colorado River doctrine.
It’s a decent take imho but far from airtight. The Anti- Injunction parties solid. The SEC cannot just simply nullify an active state court injunction. But that doesn’t mean they can’t nullify it through other arguments. And I think that’s what the SEC does-they make a separate argument-and say “ this is a separate lawsuit”. The Louisiana case is primarily the athletes’ eligibility challenge against the NCAA/SEC. The Alabama case is the SEC asserting its own alleged federal constitutional right against LSU officials.
As for the frivolous “ first amendment “ bullshite- LSU wins this one imho with a s simple argument that sound like this : Letting LSU put two eligible players on the field doesn’t force Greg Sankey to endorse anything. The SEC can criticize LSU all it wants”. This is regulation of football conduct, not compelled speech.
Let’s ride.
So Louisiana got there first and told the SEC, “You can’t punish LSU for using these players.” Then the SEC ran to federal court in Alabama and tried to repackage the same fight as a First Amendment case: “We’re not arguing eligibility; LSU is forcing us to associate with conduct we reject.” LSU’s response will be: “Cute wording, but you’re still asking an Alabama judge to undo what the Louisiana judge just protected.”
Then the post says LSU can argue: “Don’t create two courts giving opposite orders. The Louisiana case was first, it’s already much farther along, and the SEC’s Alabama lawsuit looks REACTIVE and PUNITIVE ” That is a legitimate argument under the Colorado River doctrine.
It’s a decent take imho but far from airtight. The Anti- Injunction parties solid. The SEC cannot just simply nullify an active state court injunction. But that doesn’t mean they can’t nullify it through other arguments. And I think that’s what the SEC does-they make a separate argument-and say “ this is a separate lawsuit”. The Louisiana case is primarily the athletes’ eligibility challenge against the NCAA/SEC. The Alabama case is the SEC asserting its own alleged federal constitutional right against LSU officials.
As for the frivolous “ first amendment “ bullshite- LSU wins this one imho with a s simple argument that sound like this : Letting LSU put two eligible players on the field doesn’t force Greg Sankey to endorse anything. The SEC can criticize LSU all it wants”. This is regulation of football conduct, not compelled speech.
Let’s ride.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:15 am to LSUTigerblood50
Yeah, but the SEC case is really just a "LSU hurt my feelings" case
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:16 am to Russianblue
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Because LSU and its officials are state actors (instrumentalities of Louisiana),
So if LSU were a private institution, would this materially alter their claims? Not every major school in the NCAA is a state school, and Vanderbilt is in the SEC.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:16 am to LSUTigerblood50
All of this is correct.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:22 am to The Eric
Bamas case is actually more -“ LSU can not compel us to ASSOCIATE with conduct we do not agree with”.
LSU can produce DOZENS of examples where they associated with conduct with no complaint that they now claim they do not agree with.
LSU can produce DOZENS of examples where they associated with conduct with no complaint that they now claim they do not agree with.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:25 am to LSUTigerblood50
I read it like I was a LSU law student
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:25 am to TigerBR1111
Anybody who wants to understand what the MOTHERFLUCK is going on with this BS SEC countersuit.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:27 am to TigerBR1111
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Once again your reading comprehension is poor. I never said it was too long.
So you think his is the only source of obtaining information for an informed opinion?
No wonder you’re getting your panties all up in a wad.
There are many other ways to obtain information for an informed opinion
did i say that?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:32 am to FredbullTN
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My question is, can the SEC go back and retroactively punish LSU if they play these guys without punishing Bama for playing that NBA dude?
depends on how the court rules
but here is the deal...the whole thing is the SEC saying LSU agreed to abided by our rules when it joined the conference. Because of the actions they have taken they are forcing member institutions to associate with things that are against our rules and because of that it is damaging the brand of the other member institutions and the SEC as a non profit
well they fricked up doing that because they did not pursue this action against Bama for the g-league player
they also could not define what a professional was, what an amateur was and what the specific NCAA ruling on this stated.
they open themselves up on all this. unequitable enforcement of the rules, not having clear rules on what is a professional, etc
so to answer your question, dont think so but I do not think the SEC will win this. they open themselves up to a ton of scrutiny.
and if they do, they have to retroactive punish bama, have to declare all players playing because of state TRO ineligible i.e. Trinidad and must clear up the rules going forward
either way LSU wins imo
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:33 am to LSUTigerblood50
The amount of people saying this is too long are blowing my mind. This would maybe be a page or one and a half if it were a book.
You can only be so concise before you start having to remove material information.
I was a big fan of this write up personally. Thank you OP for sharing
You can only be so concise before you start having to remove material information.
I was a big fan of this write up personally. Thank you OP for sharing
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:34 am to LSUTigerblood50
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Third, CRAD requires Judge Axon to weigh the presence of a federal question. The SEC's primary defense against abstention is that its suit relies on a core First Amendment federal question.
The first amendment deals with free speech. The SEC and Greg Sanky have been spouting off every chance they get, nobody has stopped them or tried to stop them from expressing themselves.
Interfering with the free association of the schools might be a bit stronger case but probably still pretty weak - it's a stretch to say that "The LSU coach made 4-5 phone calls to Harris and Wright, and because he made those phone calls the other 15 schools were impeded and are now impeded from associating with each other." - in fact the opposite has been true, if anything coach Kiffins conduct has led to a stronger association between the other 15 schools - they got together to discuss expulsion of LSU.
I bet it gets tossed
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:37 am to LSUTigerblood50
Yup. Been sharing that post in the fb sec groups
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:42 am to LSUTigerblood50
In practical terms, the attorney is saying LSU appears to have a pretty strong procedural argument for keeping the protection it already won in Louisiana, despite the SEC filing a new federal lawsuit in Alabama.
The key distinction is that this is not necessarily saying LSU will ultimately win the entire legal dispute. It is saying the SEC may have a difficult time using the Alabama federal case to quickly undo what LSU already obtained from the Louisiana court.
The key distinction is that this is not necessarily saying LSU will ultimately win the entire legal dispute. It is saying the SEC may have a difficult time using the Alabama federal case to quickly undo what LSU already obtained from the Louisiana court.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:51 am to Meauxjeaux
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Why was that thread anchored?
I thought it was a decent thread, but I haven't the slightest clue. I know someone mentioned the title in one of the replies, so maybe there was an issue with that?
And I wasn't trying to shite on OP. I just found it funny that he took a post that was just a little earlier, copied it and made a new thread that was allowed to stay up.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:56 am to LSUTigerblood50
Very interesting. It appears LSU has strong grounds to defeat the suit by the SEC.
What’s not being talked about is what happens when LSU wins this suit. Will Sankey and the SEC vote to remove LSU from the conference? If the vote where today, I think the answer is absolutely.
What’s not being talked about is what happens when LSU wins this suit. Will Sankey and the SEC vote to remove LSU from the conference? If the vote where today, I think the answer is absolutely.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:58 am to LSUTigerblood50
The judge will issue an order and end it with Roll Damn Tide!
Posted on 9/4/26 at 11:31 am to DeltaDoc
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Very interesting. It appears LSU has strong grounds to defeat the suit by the SEC.
What’s not being talked about is what happens when LSU wins this suit. Will Sankey and the SEC vote to remove LSU from the conference? If the vote where today, I think the answer is absolutely.
But then will the SEC have to renegoiate with ESPN because said member is no longer part of the package.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 11:33 am to Tiger Ike
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TLDR
THIS:
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Ultimately, Judge Axon is highly constrained. The Anti-Injunction Act prevents Judge Axon from directly overriding the Louisiana state judge's orders. Meanwhile, under CRAD, LSU and Coach Kiffin have a compelling argument that Judge Axon should stay or dismiss the SEC's federal lawsuit to avoid duplicative, conflicting, and chaotic rulings
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