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re: Does College Baseball need to change in any significant ways?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:04 am to Havoc
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:04 am to Havoc
I wish the Omaha bracket was set up a little differently. The two completely separate 4 team bracket sides changed to a combined 8 team double elimination tournament. That way no one can luck up with an "easy" side of the bracket. And although I like best 2 of 3 for the championship, it helps a little with the scheduling now that both teams in the finals are on a level playing field and you can possibly just stick with a strict double elimination format. No need to break out the championship series. Would possibly help with the people not needing to spend 2 weeks in Omaha.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:05 am to AlwysATgr
Used to be three days rest when best-of-three championship series started on Monday with that weekend free. Moved back to Saturday start to shorten overall CWS length basically for burden on visiting fans.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:07 am to John_V
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The automated strike zone is inevitable to some degree
I have written this a lot on TD, but I have the solution.
The home plate ump has an ear piece. The ear piece tells him instantly ball or strike using AI or whatever. He still gets to yell it out, still gets to use some flare for strike 3, etc. The players and fans in the stands would not notice any difference except a perfect strike zone.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:14 am to CatfishJohn
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1. Figure out a way to change the direction of the field
Seriously? This would require a total rebuild of the stadium. It would probably be cheaper to build a new stadium. Won’t happen in a million years. Yes the stadium faces the wrong direction, but both teams play on the same field.
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it makes 90% of games there boring. You can hit it 115 mph off the bat at the perfect angle at not hit homeruns. That's silly.
I didn’t even consider the LSU-Wake game with no runs in regulation boring. In fact, it was a pitching, defensive exhibition that was a masterpiece. The same could be said for our first game with Florida and almost all of the low scoring games played in the first week.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:19 am to drizztiger
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I want electronic strike zones, in some capacity. At least in CWS. That's my #1. It's ridiculous that some blind bus driver gets $350 a weekend to call balls/strikes over batters heads, while going back to his day job and hopefully not crashing the bus.
Yeah I don't see why we're still relying on umps to call a game in 2023. It would be so easy to do and it would be consistent. You would still have an ump behind the plate to handle all of the other calls that a home plate ump is responsible for. Put something on his wrist that lets him know if it was a ball or strike and he makes the call. Like what the pitchers wear to see which pitch is called.
The counter argument is something like, "Think about what that takes away from the game. That's just part of baseball." Yeah, I get that. It has been a part of baseball since the first game was ever played but just because that's the way it's always been doesn't mean it's the way it should always be. Batters used to walk up to the plate with nothing but their cap on. Then someone came up with the obvious idea that they should probably wear helmets. This seems like an obvious change that needs to happen. The strike zone shouldn't change from inning to inning or even pitch to pitch. It's absurd to me.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:23 am to bhtigerfan
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The stupid rule about being outside the baseline when running to 1st base and the bag being on the inside of fair territory needs to change.
That has been discussed adnauseum at the MLB level and somehow nothing is done.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:26 am to AlxTgr
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This. I don't think the rule is dumb at all. The batter knows it and can see the lane. It's not hard to get a foot on the base from there. That runner stayed left the entire time.
Agreed. Also people keep forgetting the most important part of the rule. Simply running on the inside of the line isn't an automatic out. The runner must also interfere with the 1st baseman's ability to catch the ball. 99% of baserunners have no problem running down the line without this becoming a problem. No need to change this rule or add another 1st base.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:31 am to geauxtigers33
"Stop counting football, the sport that pays for everything, scholarships toward title 9 so baseball can become a full scholarship sport and you can start more male sports in general"
THIS times a million. Thanks for stating this. Title IX was needed but just like everything else in this woke world they took it too far. It punished all the olympic men's sports or spring sports which do not generate revenue ( just like the vast majority of all the women's sports). Football is the king of the hill because that is what pays for all the sports essentially.
I played a Div I sport which was the only top 20 team my university had ( multiple times ) in this one sport. They dropped the sport 20 years ago due to title IX. bullshite.
Spring/Olympic sports allowed for great athletes to compete at division I who did not happen to be 6 ft 4'' and weigh 220 pounds.
They need to fix this stupidity. Men's tennis, golf, swimming, Just separate football from the scholarship count since it is the giant revenue maker ( which allows women sports to exist in college).
THIS times a million. Thanks for stating this. Title IX was needed but just like everything else in this woke world they took it too far. It punished all the olympic men's sports or spring sports which do not generate revenue ( just like the vast majority of all the women's sports). Football is the king of the hill because that is what pays for all the sports essentially.
I played a Div I sport which was the only top 20 team my university had ( multiple times ) in this one sport. They dropped the sport 20 years ago due to title IX. bullshite.
Spring/Olympic sports allowed for great athletes to compete at division I who did not happen to be 6 ft 4'' and weigh 220 pounds.
They need to fix this stupidity. Men's tennis, golf, swimming, Just separate football from the scholarship count since it is the giant revenue maker ( which allows women sports to exist in college).
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:32 am to KC Tiger
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Seriously? This would require a total rebuild of the stadium. It would probably be cheaper to build a new stadium. Won’t happen in a million years. Yes the stadium faces the wrong direction, but both teams play on the same field.
I know. Do it anyway or get a new stadium. Not like it's a great stadium anyway. And I know it won't happen. He didn't ask for realistic ways to help baseball
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:38 am to MCMBEANLVI
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The Florida runner last night was in fair territory the whole way to the base
Violation the correct call was made period
Sure, that's the current rule. But I think a runner should be able to run in a straight line to the base without it being a violation. They should expand the running lane to include the base.
All it would take is some extra chalk/paint.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:53 am
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:43 am to Havoc
I want AI called balls/strikes. Call it into an ump earpiece and you don’t even have to lose any feel of the game.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:45 am to graychef
Title 9 fricked college baseball, NIL might save it
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:48 am to Havoc
A certain 6th inning Umpire needs to retire. Was awful the entire game, too. Neither team or fan base liked that guy.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:53 am to Jon A thon
Short of playing 4 games a day the will always e a perceived imbalance. What people forget is the side of the bracket that “loses “ an off day got an extra day off before the cws started
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:54 am to Havoc
I would love for the championship series to wait a week so everyone is rested and both teams can through their best guys instead of bullpen guys starting
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:56 am to Havoc
Id like to see a few days off so teams in Omaha reset their pitching before the finals. I get why they cram it all into a week, but it kept the best pitcher in college baseball off the mound in the finals.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:02 am to Havoc
I think a lot of posters covered the little ones I want to see changed.
AI calling balls/strikes
Reviews in the booth, and timed
Need to extend first base (not as much as a double bag) a little in the foul line (would also help the novice viewer)
Some I did not see mentioned
If you are going to do a clock to speed up the game, you need 2 of them. Batter has xx seconds to get set, once he's deemed set the ump gives a signal to start the pitcher's clock. Some gamesmanship for the offense to make the pitcher speed up a little. If batter is ready sooner, pitcher can't sit there for 20 seconds which will ultimately cause the batter to use a TO.
IMO, the game needs some adjustments to balks. Offense is trying to do things to steal a base, the pitcher/defense should not be constrained by so many rules to keep the offense from advancing an extra 90'
AI calling balls/strikes
Reviews in the booth, and timed
Need to extend first base (not as much as a double bag) a little in the foul line (would also help the novice viewer)
Some I did not see mentioned
If you are going to do a clock to speed up the game, you need 2 of them. Batter has xx seconds to get set, once he's deemed set the ump gives a signal to start the pitcher's clock. Some gamesmanship for the offense to make the pitcher speed up a little. If batter is ready sooner, pitcher can't sit there for 20 seconds which will ultimately cause the batter to use a TO.
IMO, the game needs some adjustments to balks. Offense is trying to do things to steal a base, the pitcher/defense should not be constrained by so many rules to keep the offense from advancing an extra 90'
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:03 am to Havoc
The athetes' skills (particularly pitchers) have far exceeded the umpires' skills. Challenges & replays have mostly fixed the basepath issues. Electronic strike zone is needed.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:06 am to CatfishJohn
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it makes 90% of games there boring
So let me get this straight: our 2-0 game against Wake Forest and the the 4-3 game against Florida (when the wind was blowing as it usually does) were boring, but the last two games of the finals (when the wind, somewhat unusually, was blowing out) were exciting? I'm not sure most people would see it that way.
I agree that the facility, while objectively nice, doesn't seem to have a lot of character. Of course, that is true of 90% of the places where they play football championship games as well.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:07 am to MCMBEANLVI
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In the umpires mechanics manual there is a provision for the last few feet to touch the base
The Florida runner last night was in fair territory the whole way to the base
Violation the correct call was made period
People who don’t understand how officiating works should not comment also should not assume a tv or radio commentator knows anything about officiating because they don’t
Most people know just enough about rules and officiating to make themselves look uninformed which they are
I know all of this. There should be a perpendicular line closing the runners lane at some consistent distance so as to take judgement out of it. Would make replays faster, give runners a clear indication of where they can/should be, and also help the defense by knowing how to play it on a ball down 1st base line
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