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Arnsparger Used to Opt Out of Bowl Games

Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:22 pm
Went 0-3 in them. I got the impression he only cared about winning championships and bowl games without natty chances were an afterthought. Dude was 35 yrs ahead of his time.

Between NIL, the portal, and opt-outs it's just a different era of CFB.

There is a paradigm shift going on in bowl games. Apart from the playoff, if seniors and draft eligible jrs/sophs want to play, then fine, but the emphasis ought to be on the upcoming season. That would generate more interest.

ETA: one way to entice draft eligible players to play is for the bowl sponsors to pay 'em. Use their NIL in advertisements and pay 'em.



This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 11:28 pm
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 5:19 am to
The liberty bowl year he had the team "meet" in Memphis I believe. Meaning players had to get there on their own.

Christmas eve or day dinner was microwaved burritos at the 7-11 for some players if I remember that story correctly.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Member since Jul 2008
14511 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:36 am to
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The liberty bowl year he had the team "meet" in Memphis I believe. Meaning players had to get there on their own.



True story, I've heard some of the players recount that adventure. Wasn't a good idea then, but would be a disaster now giving that responsibility to our youth of this day and age.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:36 am to
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The liberty bowl year he had the team "meet" in Memphis I believe. Meaning players had to get there on their own. Christmas eve or day dinner was microwaved burritos at the 7-11 for some players if I remember that story correctly.


This was the subject of the greatest thread in the history of this board
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:20 am to
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This was the subject of the greatest thread in the history of this board



Got a link?

I believe Bob covered this in his book Sacked!, where he said it was completely insane to allow these young men to find their own way to the bowl game.
Posted by SeanLSU
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:21 am to
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The liberty bowl year he had the team "meet" in Memphis I believe. Meaning players had to get there on their own.


Back in 97 when we played Notre Dame in the Liberty Bowl, I was in Tigerband and we had the option of getting back to campus and taking the buses to the game or just meeting in Shreveport. Coming from West Monroe, Shreveport was a shorter shot, so I just did that. The school paid you a stipend for gas/travel if you took that option, so I actually made a small profit, as well.

I'm pretty sure that the team and the other support orgs like cheerleaders had that option as well. I think it's more about what you can actually force/require for a game that is outside of the normal scope and held when school is not in session and housing not available on campus. Rules may have changed since then.

By the way, that particular game was freaking freezing, too, with lots of snow and ice. The university paid to have the entire band and all the cheerleaders hit the mall and buy whatever warm clothing we needed for the game. We bought that mall out of thermals, scarves, gloves, etc. It was still brutal. And Notre Dame still had dudes in kilts with bare legs out there like it was no big deal. Those guys were insane lol.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:26 am to
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ETA: one way to entice draft eligible players to play is for the bowl sponsors to pay 'em. Use their NIL in advertisements and pay 'em.


This is interesting. Wonder if this sort of thing starts happening.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:29 am to
Brilliant.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
84875 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:30 am to
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Back in 97 when we played Notre Dame in the Liberty Bowl


Try again homie
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16460 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:16 am to
Just note it was the Independence Bowl and move on.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:19 am to
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one way to entice draft eligible players to play is for the bowl sponsors to pay 'em. Use their NIL in advertisements and pay 'em.





I agree with this. The NFL pays their players for making the playoffs and Superbowl.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59107 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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Got a link?


Unfortunately no, maybe someone else does
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11680 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:38 am to
Dumb take
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16460 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:44 am to
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Dumb take


WhiteTiger said it was brilliant which tells me he read the OP and comprehended it and you didn't.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Member since Feb 2005
24473 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:49 am to
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Back in 97 when we played Notre Dame in the Liberty Bowl, I was in Tigerband and we had the option of getting back to campus and taking the buses to the game or just meeting in Shreveport. Coming from West Monroe, Shreveport was a shorter shot, so I just did that. The school paid you a stipend for gas/travel if you took that option, so I actually made a small profit, as well.


Football players had the same option. I, too, drove in from WM so it was a no brainer.
Fun fact, one day after bowl practice in Shreveport for that game, Thomas Dunson and I got pulled over (he was driving). Fortunately the cop recognized us and he got off with a warning.
Good times.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11680 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 3:36 am to
Dude I went to two of the bowl games. From I recall we played Nebraska in two of the three bowl games and we didn’t clearly sit out for the game. Jeez
We just didn’t have the talent
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 3:39 am
Posted by Purpledaize
Member since Aug 2012
28 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 7:43 am to
We had the talent but not the depth
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 7:51 am to
Arnsparger is also the douche that told LSU to hire someone else over Spurrier and then went to Florida and hired him. He did more to hurt LSU football than any Coach in my lifetime.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
45152 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 8:25 am to
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Football players had the same option. I, too, drove in from WM so it was a no brainer.
Fun fact, one day after bowl practice in Shreveport for that game, Thomas Dunson and I got pulled over (he was driving). Fortunately the cop recognized us and he got off with a warning.
Good times.


You did good work in that game. Greatest rushing performance in a bowl game by a LSU back. Would have loved to have seen what he could have accomplished as the feature back. I met Thomas Dunson when him and Shane O'Toole came by our tailgate after a game the following year. Shane had been roommates with one of your walk on back ups. I know you remember, we have discussed this. Dunson was a good dude who caught way too much shite. it wasn't his fault he was being forced to play a position he wasn't physically capable of playing.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2443 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 8:25 am to
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Arnsparger is also the douche that told LSU to hire someone else over Spurrier and then went to Florida and hired him. He did more to hurt LSU football than any Coach in my lifetime.




Wow Arns at 26-8 did more than Curley or even latter half of O to hurt LSU.

As for Spurrier recommendation, you blame Arnesparger vs Joe Dean (who should’ve taken the comments with a grain of salt and evaluated Spurrier along with the players choice). You should’ve written Joe Dean did more to hurt LSU football in your lifetime.
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