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re: Anybody here still think O was a bad hire?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:16 pm to nitwit
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:16 pm to nitwit
This is the correct answer!! A huge risk that to date appears to be paying off in the right direction. A championship, SEC or NC, would prove it was the correct one and bring us back to the level Saban brought the program and Miles continued for a few years before trending downward.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:19 pm to The Shed
He has somehow managed to surround himself with excellent assistants. Total coaching staff performance has exceeded my expectations. I can't help but think there is some wizard in the background pulling his strings. He's not smart enough to assemble this group by his own hand. Just a hunch..
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:19 pm to The Shed
This thread is definitely needed. Again.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:20 pm to nitwit
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By almost all objective standards at the time, it was a bad hire.
People like to ignore the fact that we got him on a great deal for an SEC coach. There wasn’t a ton of risk if it didn’t work out. That mitigated a lot of those subjective standards
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:21 pm to DIGGY
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This is the correct answer!! A huge risk that to date appears to be paying off in the right direction
The risk was enormous and very likely Alleva is the only A.D. in the country that would have made that hire at the time...even Syracuse didn't have him on their final list.
I'm glad with how it's going this year, the risk reward was off the charts on the risk side and he did some stuff early that didn't help make us feel all that much better.
But he's done some good things of late, mostly and mainly the Brady hire. I think we can all see what a significant and tangible difference that has made.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:21 pm to The Shed
The fact that he is having success does not mean he was the right hire 3 years ago. I still don’t believe he was the right hire at the time. That doesn’t mean I’m not happy as hell to have been wrong.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:21 pm to lootershooter
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I am still not over the Troy loss.
I'm still not over the UAB loss.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:23 pm to Mahootney
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Anybody here still think O was a bad hire?
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I do. Who's to say any other hire would have performed differently?
And there is your answer. So sad and pathetic.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:23 pm to The Shed
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Anybody here still think O was a bad hire?
Let me ask this question a different way. If in 2015 as Miles' program was taking three straight losses and it looked like he was going to be shown the door, did you or anyone else think that the best hire to replace him would be our own DL coach whose only full time head coaching experience had been running ole miss further into the ditch?
If anyone is ready to raise their hand and say that's who they wanted then...or at any time during Miles' run when people wanted him gone?
Regardless of how this ultimately plays out (and we're only 6 games into this season with all its promise) the hire, and how it was done will always be a bad one. hopefully it works out and we look back and think Alleva got fricking lucky...but to pretend that he knew something the rest of the college football world did not makes no sense at all.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:24 pm to Tiger Ugly
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For me the Joe Brady hire is the best hire he has ever made and he gets all the credit for that. Anyone else probably could have hired him, but no on did. Now the to o-coordinator hires before that......this makes up for that in spades. And I know SE is still officially OC....but we know.
Is there any notion that ANYONE ELSE even had their eye on Brady as hiring him as a college assistant?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:24 pm to The Shed
One of the worst hires ever
Him having a good season doesn’t change that but it’s great to see
We will learn more about him next year with no Burrow
Him having a good season doesn’t change that but it’s great to see
We will learn more about him next year with no Burrow
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:24 pm to GeauxTigerNation
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Yes there are. If you unfortunate enough to visit the tiger rant scoreboard on a gameday during the opponents offensive drives, you will see a large flock of them.
Then they vanish, only to be seen on the next opposing first down
More taking it out on Aranda. Since O is killing it and all. Some people have to complain about something.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:25 pm to OceanMan
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People like to ignore the fact that we got him on a great deal for an SEC coach. There wasn’t a ton of risk if it didn’t work out. That mitigated a lot of those subjective standards
I disagree that there was little risk.
Sure we got him for cheap but had he flamed our like he did at Ole Miss, it could have set the program back for a decade or more.
Fortunately he seems to have matured a ton as a coach and has us in a great spot.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:25 pm to The Shed
I think hiring Orgeron was a terrible decision by Alleva that is working out great! Sometimes life is like that. It makes up for all the great decisions that work out awfully.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:26 pm to The Shed
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I have to admit, I thought it was a bad hire. However, he is proving me wrong every day. And I couldn't be happier.
Yes... present. I know I will get flamed... Go ahead.
I am not yet to concede I was wrong, although I would like to soon.
O has recruited well no doubt. No one questioned those skills. He recruited well even at Ole Miss. The Ole Miss teams on 2008-2010 were pretty good thanks to the athletes he left Nutt.
I am not sold O is a good coach yet. He has beaten 2 teams LSU was an underdog to and lost to 6 teams were favored to beat. That is hardly remarkable.
O has not led LSU anywhere close to an SEC W championship. He has also benefited from Ole Miss, Arkansas and Miss St recently being dumpster fires. Those are three SEC teams we have typically fought tooth and nail. He has failed to score a point against Bama 2 of the 3 games we had and has a .50 record in bowl games.
I really want to admit wrong. Truth is.... Not one in a power 5 school would have hired him as HC in Nov 2016. He was our TG Maxx coaching find. I hope we found ourselves a super bargain.
If we were Georgia, Bama or Florida, would his record be something celebrated?
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:26 pm to DIGGY
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A championship, SEC or NC, would prove it was the correct one
Not unless you can show me how Alleva knew that would happen when he made the hire.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:27 pm to nitwit
I see nothing gets by you
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:28 pm to El Dago
I see you didn’t answer his question
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:28 pm to The Shed
I thought the hiring process was terrible and the hire was bad
I’m glad to be wrong
I’m glad to be wrong
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:28 pm to nitwit
A hire should be judged on the results it yields. You can’t judge a hire the instant it’s made. And by the way, not hiring Jimbo was freaking brilliant on multiple levels, and a lot of LSU fans wanted him. Now he’s an albatross around the Aggies neck.
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