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re: AFR show notes from 11/28/16...the day O was hired as HC
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:19 am to RadarTiger
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:19 am to RadarTiger
98% of us were wrong on this.
98% you’re fuking off. It was 100% of the Tards. There was a full 50% of normal folks who were willing to give him a chance. And fuk Lady. Moscona for losing his objectivity
98% you’re fuking off. It was 100% of the Tards. There was a full 50% of normal folks who were willing to give him a chance. And fuk Lady. Moscona for losing his objectivity
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:21 am
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:20 am to RadarTiger
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Dude, we all bashed him.
bullshite!! Not everybody bashed him.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:20 am to LSUsmartass
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No, he spent weeks bashing him, opened up his phone lines to allow everyone to call in and bash him. He has a very powerful platform and he used it to tear down O in every was possible
You guys are to dramatic.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:20 am to Big4SALTbro
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Let’s be honest Br radio is small market trash with host that couldn’t hack it in any large city/national market. However when the larger shows in an area run down a coach before his first game the way matt did it’s pretty stupid.
I’m not speaking for Mascona, but I’m sure 75% of his hate was the hiring process. It’s hard to shite on Alleva and the way he went about it without shitting on Orgeron
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:20 am to Big4SALTbro
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Let’s be honest Br radio is small market trash with host that couldn’t hack it in any large city/national market.
Have you hear the regional or national radio pundits?
Finebaum? Cowherd? Will Cain? Jim Rome? Lebatard?
They’re beyond terrible with the exception of Rome, who was pretty bad in his own right early in his career.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:21 am to RadarTiger
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Dude, we all bashed him. We all admitted we were wrong. So did Matt.
No we didnt... I didnt jump up and down about it but I was ok with it.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:23 am to VermilionTiger
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I’m sure 75% of his hate was the hiring process.
That, and the fact that he was an assistant on Miles’ staff. At the time, seemed most LSU fans wanted a total cleansing of Miles from the program, and promoting from within felt like a continuation of Miles.
I never got the impression any of it was personal, at least for most. It was the process and the link to Les.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:24 am to LSUsmartass
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Most people on this board will say "well everyone felt that way, cut him some slack"...no, Matt probably has the biggest and loudest sports voice in Baton Rouge, and he got very subjective, and very personal and now it's biting him in the arse.
Feels like you’re the one making it personal. Frankly a lot of it had nothing to do with O. A lot of it was Aleva’s shite process. That said, like Matt I hated the hire but hoped I’d be proven wrong. I was and couldn’t be happier about it because I love LSU.
And really as I think back, although neither of them were as controversial as O’s hire, nobody was throwing parades and meeting Saban or Les at the airport when those dudes were hired either. They earned the hearts of this fan base by winning. O has done the same thing (times 100); that’s how it’s supposed to work.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:26 am to RadarTiger
I didn’t bash the hire. I was happy about it.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:31 am to LSUsmartass
quote:Hasn't been ten years yet...
hope in 10 years you all look back and say whatever happened to that idiot Moscona, remember when he bashed LSU for hiring O
But whatever happened to that idiot Moscona?
I can't say I bashed the O hire though. I was upset but wanted to give the guy a chance. Then Troy happened and I was done with him. Now, I can't imagine LSU without him.
Things have a weird way of working out. There was nobody, and I mean NOBODY on this board that believed tDerek's binder would actually result in a national championship though.
As much as I hate to give Goebbels credit, credit is due. And much more credit to Coach O for not just being a snake oil salesman, and following through on his promises.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:36 am to RadarTiger
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Dude, we all bashed him.
I hate hearing people say this because it's not true. I never bashed him. I wasn't shocked by the promotion at the time either. I wasn't sure if he'd be successful or not, but I never bashed him. Stop lumping everyone into the group.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:40 am to LSUsmartass
He was ruthless on his attack on coach O, its one thing to be disappointed but another to drag it on and on and on and on. I actually quit listening to AFR for a long time because of his negativity, which did spread out to other subjects he spoke of too.
As far as coach O coming on the show, why would you want
to be interviewed by someone who bashed you since you took over the team? I bet I know what O would say;
"AFR who? F***You!"
As far as coach O coming on the show, why would you want
to be interviewed by someone who bashed you since you took over the team? I bet I know what O would say;
"AFR who? F***You!"
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:40 am to VermilionTiger
Not really it’s easy to separate the two. It’s called having some nuance
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:44 am to LSUsmartass
I always have said "I hope Coach O gets a statue one day, but you don't fire a National Winning Coach and hire within your program". I hope he has years and years of success.
We all make mistakes.
We all make mistakes.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:45 am to LSUsmartass
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bullshite, Matt straight up shite on O for a long time and he did it from a huge platform with many thousands listening...state you don't agree with the hire and move on, did Matt do that? No, he said LSU shopped at walmart for cheap furniture and they settled for the ugly 5 at the bar
His job is to give his opinions and discuss them. Not be polite in criticism. I don't care if someone has a different opinion than me as long as they can back that opinion up with a rational basis. And at the time the OVERWHELMING majority of LSU fans felt the same way about Orgeron. You can't view what was said 3 years ago with the benefit of hindsight and say "oh, he shouldn't have said that. Or what a dumb opinion"
The facts are when O was hired he:
(a) had a terrible tenure in his only HC job
(b) was not considered a HC candidate for any other D-1 school in the nation
(c) had never even been a successful coordinator.
LSU had just fired their HC who had a long history of success. While the firing was warranted because it was clear Les wasn't going to evolve, the program was FAR from bad when Les was fired. Most programs fire a HC after years of terrible seasons. Les never had those. The hope was that LSU was going to hire a guy with a tangible history of having success as a coach. O had no record of that whatsoever. So forgive everyone for being skeptical when you hired a guy with ZERO record of success to get your program over the hump to be a NC contender.
And in O's first two seasons he basically duplicated Miles last full season (Miles went 8-3 in 2015...which would have been 9-3 had the McNesse game not been canceled).
To his ultimate credit Orgeron refused to be deterred by the naysayers and built his team/staff HIS way...and it worked out brilliantly. And you know what? EVERYONE. Fans, media, players, etc ALL have acknowledged O proved them wrong. If O were to hold some kind of grudge against those in the media who criticized or laughed at his hire then he would never make another media appearance again because EVERYONE criticized the hire, with understandable reason.
So the host of the local radio show said he didn't think you were worth a shite when you were hired. Who cares? YOU won. YOU proved him wrong. YOU made him acknowledge he was wrong. So you're now going to boycott his show just because he had the same opinion as everyone else?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:50 am to LSUsmartass
I was not super excited about the hire but then I was not excited about Jimbo or Herman either. I figured why not after Myles had spent a decade making great talent good, I figured whoever got the job had shiteshow to fix from the bottom up. I believe Matt hated Alleva and the process more than O and railed against it, and to be honest the hiring process was garbage and would have been garbage if they only talked to Jimbo or Herman. At the end of the day it is sports talk radio in a small market. Matt regularly says he was wrong. The majority of people in town were not loving the hire and most hated it.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:03 am to LSUsmartass
Alleva botched the firing of Miles, and the search for a new HC, and quite frankly, settled on Orgeron as a result. Coach O was not the best candidate for the job based on resume, but because the hiring process was so grossly mishandled, he got his shot and landed his dream job. Not many could have predicted nor expected his meteoric rise and level of success he would achieve in such a short time. Moscona was simply stating his opinion which was widely mirrored by many others. This does not mean he was wishing Coach O ill will or hoping for failure. He freely admits that Coach O has proven him wrong, and many others. True Tiger fans are happy for what Coach O has done, and because this is a free country with free speech and ideas and opinions, no one should be made to feel shamed by what they believed. Havent you ever been proved wrong? I know I have, and it takes a man with character, courage, and humility to learn from the past , not use it to hang over someones head. Lets not ruin this amazing time in LSU Football History by trying to point out where people were wrong about Coach O. Lets rally around what he is building and soak it all in. Life is short my friend, we need to enjoy it one day at a time.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:11 am to winkchance
Not only did that loud mouthgo over the line, his boy Theriot did also. From his criticizing and making fun of the age of the wide receiver coach and comments about looking for older people when staff openings appeared just gave me a sense of disbelief that a true fan would stoop this low with his comments. Never looked at him the same since then either. Listen to the show only for info from some of the guests but when he goes off on one of his senseless rants I turn it off. Turn it off a lot.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:14 am to RadarTiger
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You can talk shite on Matt for a lot of things but not when 98% of us were wrong on this.
I don't think it was that high of a number. Many folks were upset to be sure, but a lot of people felt like O could pull it off. I figure at least 30% of the base supported him. I was a Coach O supporter, but never in a million years did I think he could win a NC in 3 years. He certainly exceeded everyone's expectations.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:24 am to LSUsmartass
I remember what I said. I said it was an uninspired choice and a botched coaching hire PROCESS by Aleeva . But that it had a certain defensible logic to it that I completely understood. Hire the motivational LSU super fan, give him great coordinators and additional resources and see what happens. It was all of course unbelievably condescending to a guy who had already lapped us several times but we were all too arrogant to understand.
I did make shrimp boat captain references to my friend after Troy or Florida- can’t remember which . I’m an arse for that. But I was always supportive of him besides that emotional melt. My anger was always reserved for Aleeva. And I now believe thatt results mostly vindicate him too ( Wade and Orgeron ).
It’s a lesson we are supposed to heed, folks.
I did make shrimp boat captain references to my friend after Troy or Florida- can’t remember which . I’m an arse for that. But I was always supportive of him besides that emotional melt. My anger was always reserved for Aleeva. And I now believe thatt results mostly vindicate him too ( Wade and Orgeron ).
It’s a lesson we are supposed to heed, folks.
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