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re: The 2021 CF Open is upon us: What lunacy will Castro drop in our laps?
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:29 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:29 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Yes, completely agree. The Open is usually fun, but they sometimes toss max lifting in after a normal WOD and that seems like a recipe for us normies, especially newbies, to get hurt.
I get it for Games athletes, but that probably shouldn't be programmed until after Open is over.
I get it for Games athletes, but that probably shouldn't be programmed until after Open is over.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 8:33 pm
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Posted on 3/26/21 at 7:50 am to StraightCashHomey21
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shite like this is why CrossFit get a bad name
I tend to agree
Posted on 3/26/21 at 7:59 am to Salmon
I did CF exclusively for about 4 years, and still do love to hit some WODS (about one every 1-2 weeks) with simple movement patterns for the intensity/conditioning aspect, but this right here is the exact reason why I quit. A max load complex after a brutal enough looking WOD - recipe for disaster (just my opinion).
Also - agree with the open level athletes doing something like this, but not 99% of the people that will do it.
Also - agree with the open level athletes doing something like this, but not 99% of the people that will do it.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:35 am to StraightCashHomey21
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So stupid
shite like this is why CrossFit get a bad name
Meh I disagree. 21.1 favored strong gymnastics, 21.2 favored cardio, 21.3/21.4 is where people with strength can shine. They did a good job mixing up the workouts in my opinion given the tough constraints with Covid and many people working out from home.
CrossFit is like anything else, if you have shitty form it doesn’t matter the program or the gym you are going to get hurt. At least with CrossFit you have a coach there to help and guide you. People who only run all the time get hurt pushing themselves too hard. Replace CrossFit with any sport and it applies
This is why they have scaled divisions
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:42 am to Salmon
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shite like this is why CrossFit get a bad name
There is some dumb shite for sure, but I don't find this to be bad really. I don't see anything dangerous about it. I guess you could drop the weight on your head from the jerk from fatigue I guess.
Doing 50 deadlifts at 225 for time is stupid; I see the objective of adding a heavy lift to the end of this workout. It'll separate the bodyweight specialists because it's heavy and it'll separate the strong with no endurance because of the first part.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:51 am to Mingo Was His NameO
most people will be so fatigued that they won't come close to their max weights on any of those lifts
the hang clean and jerk will be the limiting lifts for that and both of those are shoulder
most people will probably be in the 60-80% range of their maxes
the hang clean and jerk will be the limiting lifts for that and both of those are shoulder
most people will probably be in the 60-80% range of their maxes
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:10 am to Salmon
I did it this morning. I did the first 15 squats at Rx for the score in the app, then scaled to 65lb with hanging knee raises/35lb dumbbell row/perfect pushups. Finished at 12:30. Moved into 21.4 and got 135 then 155. Almost had 185, got the hang clean then failed the jerk, didn't drop low enough and caught it behind me and had to drop it. Didn't leave myself enough time to try it again. That would've been a PR for my jerk.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:52 am to Hulkklogan
You had the strength. Need some technique work!
Posted on 3/26/21 at 11:18 am to RebelExpress38
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CrossFit is like anything else, if you have shitty form it doesn’t matter the program or the gym you are going to get hurt. At least with CrossFit you have a coach there to help and guide you. People who only run all the time get hurt pushing themselves too hard. Replace CrossFit with any sport and it applies
This.
CrossFit is just the easy target because the bodybuilding/powerlifting community thinks it’s dumb.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 11:36 am to Hulkklogan
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I get it for Games athletes, but that probably shouldn't be programmed until after Open is over
I would have thought Castro would avoid BMUs due to people forced to use home gyms possibly not having the head room to do them.
And I was thinking a 3 or 5RM of a thruster or OHS because not everyone will have a full set of weights to hit a heavy weight like a 1RM or complex like we are seeing at 21.4.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 12:02 pm to LSUAlum2001
Yeah jerks are a weak spot. I was so disappointed to get so close and fail that lift.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 12:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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shite like this is why CrossFit get a bad name
In a fatigued state I thought wall walks would be considered more sketchy than a clean and jerk complex. Wall walks we don’t do nearly as much.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 6:34 pm to RebelExpress38
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CrossFit is like anything else, if you have shitty form it doesn’t matter the program or the gym you are going to get hurt. At least with CrossFit you have a coach there to help and guide you. People who only run all the time get hurt pushing themselves too hard. Replace CrossFit with any sport and it applies
LMAOO the term coach is very loose in CrossFit
You don’t need any real certifications other than a weekend class and $1000
That second part is awful programming even if you have great technique on those Olympic and power lifts
7 mins to find a max weight on a four lift complex is retarted
Posted on 3/26/21 at 6:37 pm to olemissfan26
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CrossFit is just the easy target because the bodybuilding/powerlifting community thinks it’s dumb.
Not really when you have idiots programming shite
I’m not some body builder bashing CrossFit
I did CrossFit for a long time and still good functional WODs a couple times a week for conditioning, especially from CompTrain.
CrossFit definitely deserves criticism when shite like this comes out
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 6:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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but I don't find this to be bad really. I don't see anything dangerous about it. I guess you could drop the weight on your head from the jerk from fatigue I guess.
You can absolutely wreck your back doing a deadlift, clean, hang clean complex alone will trying to rush into a Max lift
When your legs are already gassed and your for arms are wrecked. Especially if the standard for the complex is enforced you must hold on the bar the entire time of all four movements
Posted on 3/26/21 at 7:36 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You can absolutely wreck your back doing a deadlift, clean, hang clean complex alone will trying to rush into a Max lift
Well of course you can, that's why you keep your core tight and pull all the way through. That doesn't mean it's dangerous. Jabronis at Golds jack their back up all the time too.
Im not a CrossFit guy so I have no dog in the fight, but I don't see anything wrong with the workout
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well of course you can, that's why you keep your core tight and pull all the way through.
Here lies the problem
It’s in a 7 min time cap on exhausted legs
Form and technique are going to be shot but people will use their ego and try and win
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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It’s in a 7 min time cap on exhausted legs
Are your legs really exhausted from a 95 lb barbell? Most people aren't going to get through muscle ups so it's 45 front squats and 30 thrusters at 95. Any person with decent strength can handle that weight pretty easy.
And that's if you do the prescribed weight. If you can't do a clean after moving a light barbell that's on you, not the workout design.
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Form and technique are going to be shot but people will use their ego and try and win
You mean like a bunch of meat heads at globogym thinking they can pull 400?
Your issue happens everywhere.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Are your legs really exhausted from a 95 lb barbell? Most people aren't going to get through muscle ups so it's 45 front squats and 30 thrusters at 95. Any person with decent strength can handle that weight pretty easy.
My legs were jello after 21.3 and I can front squat around 300, so yeah, it comes up on you fast.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Can't speak for everyone, but my upper back and arms were more fatigued than my legs. That really hampered how much I could realistically clean (especially hang clean). I was nowhere close to my max on any of the lifts in the 21.4 complex. I'd say it's a reasonably safe test because most people seem to get 2-3 shots at it considering you can't have assistance loading the weights.
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