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re: Making a pizza - help with the slide

Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:17 pm to
The easy answer is start it on a pan then remove the pan after a few minutes.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58274 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Does the parchment work even if you are cooking on a 700+ degree stone? That’s how hot I usually get my BGE.



It should. FWIW, i get my KJ to about 500-550 for pizza. 2-3 minutes on parchment, 3-4 minutes without.

700 seems like overkill and a good way to burn the outside of the crust, and leave the inside uncooked.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74470 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:27 pm to
My ooni burns parchment paper. It’s fine for regular ovens or lower temps
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17722 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:48 pm to
Put cornmeal under it and it helps it slide off.
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:50 pm to
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My ooni burns parchment paper. It’s fine for regular ovens or lower temps


Good info. Thanks.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80715 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

700 seems like overkill and a good way to burn the outside of the crust, and leave the inside uncooked.


Neapolitan pizza requires 800-1000 degree oven to cook it correctly.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12041 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:41 pm to
When I worked at a pizza place we would lift up an edge of the dough and blow under it to create some separation. You can also use an empty plastic ketchup squeeze bottle.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10859 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:48 pm to
Flour on parchment paper works in our oven at 550 on the stone. We've also used straight cornmeal on a cookie sheet, slides right off onto the stone. I'm thinking that is a little better for 700 degrees.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 4:09 am to
I use parchment paper to transfer from peel to stone. 2-3 minutes and I lift pizza and slide out parchment paper.

Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:40 am to
I have not had issues with any type of burning of paper unless it is under a broiler, or goes over the gaps in between the wall and the stone and basically is getting direct heat.
I also run about 550, not 700+.
I would imagine Ooni would burn just because it's so close to the flame, low ceiling, etc.

I would say give it a shot with just a piece of dough.
Like I said earlier, it's only in there for a short time.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9728 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:48 am to
I hate the cornmeal that gets on the underside of a nicely cooked dough.

I build my pizzas on a big piece of aluminum foil and use that to slide the pizza on to the peel and then slide the foil onto the stone. I let it cook the entire time on the foil. Works great for me.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 8:52 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141027 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:18 am to
Thanks All. I bought a wooden peel from Amazon, and will also try the parchment and aluminum foil tricks and see how it goes.
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2545 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:57 am to
I read somewhere that rice flour makes for a good slide. I use it baking bread in it stays dry
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11716 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:49 am to
quote:

I build my pizzas on a big piece of aluminum foil and use that to slide the pizza on to the peel and then slide the foil onto the stone. I let it cook the entire time on the foil. Works great for me.



I do the same, I also spray the foil with Pam. The foil transfers heat so well you can leave it or take it out after a few minutes. I take it out because I want maximum crispy crust.

Cornmeal works, but then I have it all over the oven and floor.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7730 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:07 pm to
Wood peel. Hit it good with 00 white flour. Roll, stretch, toss dough. Place on peel. Add sauce and toppings quickly.

If you put enough flour on the peel, you should be able to blow on the dough to create separation from the peel without lifting the dough with your fingers. Blowing on the dough is a much easier process with a Blogett or Bakers Pride commercial pizza oven, so you will need to think about getting on grill level.

Go ahead and get a steel peel to take it off the stone.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16791 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:34 pm to
Semolina solves a lot of issues with a good peel. I do high hydration doughs and still don’t have issues.

For oven cooks, a little birdy told me that if you remove self cleaning lock, your oven can get to 900 during the self cleaning cycle for making excellent Neapolitan pizza. You are responsible for your own safety though lol. If you do this don’t use a steel, cooks the crust too fast, use a stone. Steels work way better than stones if you stick to 550.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 9:37 pm
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:57 pm to
Gte a wooden peel for launching (they are cheap). Rub a little bit of rice flour along the peel before you place your dough. (I find rice flour doesn't burn as much and you can use less than semolina)

What is the hydration of your dough? The higher the hydration, the trickier it gets to launch, but you should be fine if you are in the 60's%.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:59 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141027 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:37 am to
Hi all,

I never followed up on all the good advice. I got it working overall pretty well. My biggest issue was I wasn't letting the dough dry some and lose it's tacky feel, and I got one of those wooden peel's and put a little flour and small amount of cornmeal on it, then the dough. If the dough is dry enough, it gives me time to put my toppings on and no issues with the slide.

I typically now do pizza twice a week, Friday and Sunday nights. Thanks again for all the advice!
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24168 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:48 am to
Also look into pizza screens.
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Use parchment paper.


What if you are cooking on a grill and your stone is 600+ degrees?
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