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If microwaves kill bacteria, why can't you just use one to heat up expired food?
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:36 pm
Don't get me wrong. I would NEVER do this. I have a phobia of expired foods and through anything away that is remotely questionable. Just was wondering that.
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Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:48 pm to jbraua
I don't think a bunch of dead bacteria would taste too good.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:56 pm to jbraua
You need to stop asking these questions. “They” are listening.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:04 pm to jbraua
It isn't just bacteria.
The bacteria release toxins that aren't killed by the microwave.
The bacteria release toxins that aren't killed by the microwave.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:10 pm to jbraua
A microwave would kill most of the bacteria but not all. You would have to sterilize it in an autoclave or an incinerator. No longer edible after that.
If the bacteria in question is clostridium it will have already released its toxins. The microwave will not destroy this, and you would get botulism and possibly die.
Go ahead and say it...you're thinking about eating out of trash aren't you?
If the bacteria in question is clostridium it will have already released its toxins. The microwave will not destroy this, and you would get botulism and possibly die.
Go ahead and say it...you're thinking about eating out of trash aren't you?
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:16 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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The bacteria release toxins that aren't killed by the microwave.
Yep, endotoxins that get released when the bacteria die. Won a case with this as the core rationale decades ago.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:55 pm to jbraua
Oh lord.
Most expiration dates are for QUALITY purposes not safety concerns.
You can eat food products past their expiration dates as long as they are not spoiled. There are signs when things begin to turn and I much prefer using my senses to determine if something is good or not over using a date.
Now an interesting fact about microwaves, they are very good at killing bacteria and are even used in the past in less developed areas to sterilize instruments. They would insulate the metal instruments to prevent damage from the microwave and also used them on acrylic tools.
Most expiration dates are for QUALITY purposes not safety concerns.
You can eat food products past their expiration dates as long as they are not spoiled. There are signs when things begin to turn and I much prefer using my senses to determine if something is good or not over using a date.
Now an interesting fact about microwaves, they are very good at killing bacteria and are even used in the past in less developed areas to sterilize instruments. They would insulate the metal instruments to prevent damage from the microwave and also used them on acrylic tools.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 7:03 pm to ThreeBonesCater
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Go ahead and say it...you're thinking about eating out of trash aren't you?
Posted on 9/2/22 at 7:04 pm to jbraua
Ovens and stoves kill bacteria as well. The heat is what kills the bacteria, not the “nuking” of the food.
I think 185 degC kills all bacteria, that’s why that’s the temperature you cook chicken to.
I think 185 degC kills all bacteria, that’s why that’s the temperature you cook chicken to.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 7:09 pm to jbraua
Microwaves can kill bacteria. They can’t make expired food, unexpired. Ya dumbass.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:24 pm to jbraua
Research these terms:
Spoilage bacteria
Pathogenic bacteria
Foodborne infection
Foodborne intoxication
Foodborne toxin-mediated infection
That should answer your current and future questions.
Spoilage bacteria
Pathogenic bacteria
Foodborne infection
Foodborne intoxication
Foodborne toxin-mediated infection
That should answer your current and future questions.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 11:15 pm to jbraua
This board has a resident food safety man, he can explain it better than I could.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 7:34 am to jbraua
Science.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 10:33 am to jbraua
some bacteria produce toxins when they are alive. Others release toxins when they die
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:01 pm to jbraua
You can but they take the nutrition out of the food.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 10:05 pm to theantiquetiger
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I think 185 degC kills all bacteria, that’s why that’s the temperature you cook chicken to.
You going for total dehydration? I think you mean F and 165 internal temp.
I did food safety for a decade. That date IS a quality date. They really can't put a date on safety, if it looks bad, throw it out.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 10:51 pm to theantiquetiger
quote:Remind me to never eat at your house if you cook your chicken to 365 degrees F
I think 185 degC kills all bacteria, that’s why that’s the temperature you cook chicken to.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:25 am to jbraua
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If microwaves kill bacteria, why can't you just use one to heat up expired food?
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:46 am to Pelican fan99
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Remind me to never eat at your house if you cook your chicken to 365 degrees F
I love dried chicken bits.
But seriously, I work with the metric system all day long, it’s stuck in my head.
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