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re: 2nd plane from an angle I had not seen.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:09 am to TerryDawg03
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:09 am to TerryDawg03
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Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s easy to see the potential in hindsight, but no one ever thought this would happen.
completely incorrect. There were extensive war games using that exact scenario prior to 9/11
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:11 am to CBLSU316
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there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it.
Ok, here’s a tip. Something big is coming.
Now that you know that, how are you going to prevent a specific something big at multiple unspecified locations on an unspecified date?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:15 am to CBLSU316
US Intelligence had this figured out. I’d read a magazine article months before 9/11 that said bin laden wanted to hijack planes and use them in weapons. They’ed already attacked the building with a truck bomb in 93 or 94.
We knew that Muslim students were doing pilot training and were a threat.
We knew that Muslim students were doing pilot training and were a threat.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:20 am to TigerVespamon
quote:I think I saw Ron Clifford on the NG 9/11 docuseries. Had not heard his story before, but he was talking about getting his co-worker out to medical attention when the second plane hit. He said that later his brother in law called him and asked him if he knew where his sister and niece were, and then told him they were on 175.
Two Friends, Two Doomed Flights
His comment was "I'm saying the Lord's prayer down on the street while my sister and niece are dying right above me."
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:25 am to GhostOfFreedom
This video has 18 different angles of the second plane hitting the south tower, including the one in the OP. The angle at 5:28 in the video may be one of the closest angles of it. Language warning, though.
YouTube
YouTube
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:28 am to TerryDawg03
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Wow. Hadn’t seen this, either.
Watching those planes hit still leaves me speechless every time.
Until this year I hadn’t heard about the people on the ground with severe burns from the jet fuel.
What a horrible day.
I lived about 12 blocks uptown from the WTC. An audio guy I knew was doing work at the base of the first tower. He was splattered with blood and body parts.
However, President* Biden now trusts the Taliban to provide evacuation security in Afghanistan.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:30 am to TerryDawg03
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Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s easy to see the potential in hindsight, but no one ever thought this would happen.
The documentary on Hulu I saw stated that the head of security believed it would happen…..but how do you defend buildings from something like that.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:32 am to CBLSU316
We know they knew. 12 countries told us and that didn’t even include our own intelligence. They were specific enough to have the week of Sept 9th and with high jacked airplanes. Bush was getting the warnings in his morning notes. Their response? Take all of our planes to Canada and Alaska and play war games
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:33 am to CleverUserName
That guy could barely fly a starter plane too
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:37 am to GhostOfFreedom
I've seen that one. It's hard to forget.
But we have to take off our shoes to get through the airport, our own government spies on us constantly and the Taliban control Afghanistan.
But we have to take off our shoes to get through the airport, our own government spies on us constantly and the Taliban control Afghanistan.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:43 am to CBLSU316
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there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming.
It's common knowledge that the intelligence agencies were saying for over a year before 9/11 that Al Queda was planning a major attack on American soil.
Due to interagency distrust and squabbles that were common at the time basically nobody listened to anybody else.
There was a lot of bullshite in the Patriot Act...a lot like 99.9%....the .1% good was the data sharing that it facilitated between all levels of law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:44 am
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:44 am to TerryDawg03
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Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people
Hollywood wrote about it several times...
Including the xfiles spin-off
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:45 am to blueboy
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But we have to take off our shoes to get through the airport
And your belt...don't forget that important piece.
Also what a lot of people don't realize is that realistically they shouldn't have been able to take the box cutters on the planes at the time when they did. However, it shows you exactly how incompetent TSA and the screeners were at the time.....they took it as an excuse to go way to far in the opposite direction.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:46 am to CBLSU316
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there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming.
Specific threats about OBL seeking to hijack commercial airliners was in the Presidential Daily Briefing on Aug 6, 2001, IIRC.
34 days before 9/11.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:55 am to GhostOfFreedom
That’s wild. The way it penetrates all the way through the building is crazy looking.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 am to skeeter531
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quote:
Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s easy to see the potential in hindsight, but no one ever thought this would happen.
completely incorrect. There were extensive war games using that exact scenario prior to 9/11
Correct. Even Tom Clancy used that scenario as the premise of Debt of Honor.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 am to PhDoogan
That is amazing and awful at the same time.
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