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re: 2nd plane from an angle I had not seen.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:45 am to GhostOfFreedom
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:17 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
In retrospect, W and his military advisors are giant fricking pussies for not immediately dropping nukes on Riyadh and Islamabad.
Sure a lot of innocent Muslims would have died but the world would have gotten over it just like they did when we nuked Japan.
Sure a lot of innocent Muslims would have died but the world would have gotten over it just like they did when we nuked Japan.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:30 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
What is that guy even doing? North tower is burning from the impact of Flight 11 and he's just sitting there while it burns? It takes two 767 jets to crash into buildings within earshot to get you to GTFO?!!?
Damn.
Damn.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:50 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Holy shite
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:51 pm to CBLSU316
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I just recently saw that angle. I am no conspiracy guy but the more and more I watch on 9/11.........there is no way in hell that the US did not know something big was coming. Im not saying it was an inside job but Id like to know what we knew and when we knew it
Well, the Israelis knew it was coming, because they had a camera crew across the bay recording it.
(And sorry, debunkers, but even the FBI reports states that at least two of them were known Mossad agents and their "moving company" was a Mossad front).
That can mean only two things: One, they knew and told our government and our government did nothing to prevent it, or Two, they knew and DIDN'T tell our government, and in that case, there goes the whole "our greatest ally" thing.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:55 pm to skeeter531
quote:I admit my wtf little red warning conspiracy flag came out when I saw that when Dubya landed AF1 in Shreveport... They were in the middle of a pre planned military exercise all lined up loaded with nukes.
it wasn't ineptitude. The number of failuresand/or coincidences that day are just statistically impossible.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:58 pm to TerryDawg03
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Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s
A B17 hit the Empire State in a dense fog.
Yes, it had occurred to people. What do you do about it?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:59 pm to TerryDawg03
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Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s easy to see the potential in hindsight, but no one ever thought this would happen.
This.
People my age and older remember when plane hijackings were a two to 3 times yearly occurrence. They claimed there was a bomb to force the captain to land. Had small weapons to threaten to start killing passengers until demands were met.
Never was there a coordinated hijacking of multiple planes. And as mentioned never to be used as missles. The passengers just went along. Until word finally got to the Pennsylvania plane.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:02 pm to CleverUserName
Jet fuel combustion gives off enough heat to raise temp to about 2,000 degF....steel melts just over that at about 2,700-3,000 degF...not to mention that it was coated too. But the thermite would raise the temps over 3,900 degF. "IF" the debris "truly" showed thermite in the debris and especially on the steel, that would do the trick for sure. That's a big "if".
I'm just suspicious and like to question and see evidence to get to a contributing cause. With all the mess we're seeing with this pandemic, it makes me distrust our gov't more. I'm not saying it did happen without a doubt, I'm just skeptical that jets were the sole cause of the collapse.
I'm just suspicious and like to question and see evidence to get to a contributing cause. With all the mess we're seeing with this pandemic, it makes me distrust our gov't more. I'm not saying it did happen without a doubt, I'm just skeptical that jets were the sole cause of the collapse.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:03 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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quote:
Using jet liners as missiles against those towers had never occurred to people. It’s easy to see the potential in hindsight, but no one ever thought this would happen.
This.
People my age and older remember when plane hijackings were a two to 3 times yearly occurrence. They claimed there was a bomb to force the captain to land. Had small weapons to threaten to start killing passengers until demands were met.
Never was there a coordinated hijacking of multiple planes. And as mentioned never to be used as missles. The passengers just went along. Until word finally got to the Pennsylvania plane.
As I posted earlier in this thread, this is totally incorrect. The military had done multiple war games with this exact scenario!!!
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:06 pm to Pisgah Pete
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In retrospect, W and his military advisors are giant fricking pussies for not immediately dropping nukes on Riyadh and Islamabad.
What on earth would that do except get us into an even longer war than the ones we went into?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:08 pm to skeeter531
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As I posted earlier in this thread, this is totally incorrect. The military had done multiple war games with this exact scenario!!!
But they're talking about the people onboard. To them, this was a "standard" hijacking.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:09 pm to PhDoogan
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Notice each plane tilted at an angle at impact to maximize damage across multiple floors. Flight 11 hit more dead on center towards the top whereas Flight 175 hit lower and closer to the edge of the south tower. The south tower was hit second and came down first within 1 hour whereas the north tower took nearly two hours to come down.
Testament to the design. Allowed for almost everyone below the impact zones to escape.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:13 pm to 87PurpleandGold
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Jet fuel combustion gives off enough heat to raise temp to about 2,000 degF....steel melts just over that at about 2,700-3,000 degF...not to mention that it was coated too. But the thermite would raise the temps over 3,900 degF. "IF" the debris "truly" showed thermite in the debris and especially on the steel, that would do the trick for sure. That's a big "if".
I'm just suspicious and like to question and see evidence to get to a contributing cause. With all the mess we're seeing with this pandemic, it makes me distrust our gov't more. I'm not saying it did happen without a doubt, I'm just skeptical that jets were the sole cause of the collapse.
You clowns that keep focusing on the melting point of steel ignore the fact it loses strength as temperature rises.
Do you really think it stays the same right up to the point it turns to liquid?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:15 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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That guy could barely fly a starter plane too
I always felt that the White House or Capital Building was the target of the one that hit the Pentagon. I think they missed on the first pass because they were way too high. They banked heavily to come back around, but because the pilot was inexperienced, he lost more altitude than he expected. He was lined up with the Capital building when he smashed into the Pentagon.
All the flight paths I found now show that it wasn't the Capital or White House as target, but I remember the day clearly when a person on the White House grounds was interviewed and said the plane crossed low over the building and they thought it was going to hit them. Then, there are some - not the official - impact direction of the Pentagon based on knocked down light poles, that line up with the capital.
I am not a big 911 conspiracy guy. I know the Muslims hijacked the planes and did what they did. I don't believe they had any help other than incompetence from our intelligence groups. However, the post 911 (Anthrax coverup, Saudi nationals being protected and moved out of country, flight path, etc) really pisses me off and makes me doubt our federal government more and more.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:15 pm to 87PurpleandGold
quote:You are an idiot. Steel loses roughly than half of its strength at 600°.
Jet fuel combustion gives off enough heat to raise temp to about 2,000 degF....steel melts just over that at about 2,700-3,000 degF.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:17 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:a good friend of mine was essentially standing right next to that guy. He said it was by far the loudest thing he had ever heard.
2nd plane from an angle I had not seen.
It's crazy that there is only the one video of the 1st plane.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:20 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Our lovely FBI released recent documents that a SA embassy official on our soil- housed the hijackers and helped them.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:23 pm to BuckyCheese
They are fools. To shape metal, we often heat it to soften it. We have no intent to "melt" it.
Whenever I hear one of these clowns talking about jet fuel and melting point of steel, I think of that stupid fat heifer Rosie O'Donnell.
Whenever I hear one of these clowns talking about jet fuel and melting point of steel, I think of that stupid fat heifer Rosie O'Donnell.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:25 pm to cajunangelle
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Our lovely FBI released recent documents that a SA embassy official on our soil- housed the hijackers and helped them.
Traitor Bush protected them. He and his family were up to their eyeballs in Saudi Royal family money, oil and who knows what.
I can't believe I voted for that ahole and his father.
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