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re: TMZ video of Jaxson Hayes Arrest

Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:02 am to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25808 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:02 am to
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Found the commie. Would love to see your reaction if cops randomly show up to your crib wanting to barge in against your will over a neighbor hearing “screaming”



frick off dumbass.

I'd be aggravated, like any normal human being.
I'd also not physically assaults the officer if he did try to enter my home, regardless if i thought he should be or not, which he shouldn't be, but that doesn't really matter. He's recording the incident, so can i, i've got nothign to hide. He wants to illegally search my home, be my guest. I know i'm not going to jail, or worse getting killed b/c i wanted to fight with a cop b/c i thought he was wrong.
what your reaction? physically not allow the cop to enter? let me know how that works out dumb frick.

You dumbasses acct like every cop is a dipshit and is out to get you. Try talking to them respectfully and you'll be surprised how many of them are normal human beings that aren't out to hunt you down. We got the cops called on us not too long ago at a party with a bunch of 40 year olds acting like college kids being loud. Very simple altercation we had with the cops where everyone was respectful, and they left after asking us to calm it down a bit, and no one was arrested miraculously.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11971 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:08 am to
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What you see in the video isn’t bad for either party

Where did he assault the policeman?

Why were the policeman called there to begin with?


For Jaxson, where is the video of the policeman kneeling on his neck?


These are the things that will determine his future as a Pelican

Yeah, I did not learn anything new from that video. He seemed to be resisting and they seemed to be trying to apprehend him. Was it excessive force? Cannot judge as the video starts after he is on the ground. Did he fight with them before? Who knows? I am sure more will come out.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3755 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:13 am to
Resisting.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111143 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:13 am to
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I mean they appear to arrrst/detain the cameraman but California is definitely a state where recording an arrest is protected under the first amendment.
True, but they can make you back up a certain distance for protection.

The cop obviously was being a dick about it but specifically was calling the guy out to back up, not to stop filming.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10476 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:14 am to
The cop literally grabbed the phone at the end.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111143 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:17 am to
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The cop literally grabbed the phone at the end.

Not sure how you can tell if they just grabbed his phone only or was grabbing or pushing him there.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:25 am to
The cops should have beat him like they do the kids on the wire
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15292 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:25 am to
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The cop obviously was being a dick about it but specifically was calling the guy out to back up, not to stop filming.


Threatening the person filming you from a safe distance is never a good look for a cop.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:26 am to
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Hayes isn't resisting as three officers are pinning him down and contorting his body

A cop decides that asking for their badge number is worth shooting him with a taser point-blank to his chest

Friend clarifies that the cops tackled him for denying him entrance

Friend is understandably stressed and is told to back off or else he'll end up like Hayes

Several more police run in and scramble for the guy's phone


This is what I also saw from the video and agree with one the redditors who summarized it nicely. The guy had all the right to record and gets threatened that he would end up as Hayes and then gets attacked by the cops. I saw no cop that needed emergency help. However, I saw a woman there who was reportedly not cooperating with the cops.

I wait for the cops to see their POV, but it is not looking great at all for them.

Edit: The most important thing is what was the probable cause for the cops to barge inside the house without permission? Even if there was a dispute, the women would had let them in since she owns the house. However, you can clearly see her standing there.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:31 am
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3495 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:26 am to
I’m on the police side. Is it that hard to comply ? Do people know how tough it is being a policeman and having to deal with idiots all day ? Just comply. As far as the guy videotaping the cop threatened him because he’s in the way with his teenage girl phone habit. Get out the damn way and let the police do their job. Is it that hard to comply or are people just that dumb nowadays ?
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:37 am to
Well maybe next time just listen .

They should have sent a social worker to the house if they knew he was in the NBA!!
Posted by chrisharrisbaby
Member since Mar 2014
686 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:38 am to
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True, but they can make you back up a certain distance for protection.

The cop obviously was being a dick about it but specifically was calling the guy out to back up, not to stop filming


Don't disagree with that at all only thing I would add is that the ones that approached the filmer were two cops that showed up from off camera it's possible they weren't aware fully what was going on and did something extreme?

Either way we should have better context in the up coming days.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:39 am to
You’re kidding right? The guy who is recording is in distress. He isn’t blocking any cops from what they are doing. When one of the officers told him to back up, he responded nicely and said okay. He turns around and gets ambushed by 2 cops.

I always respect the blue and thank them for their service. But sometimes, they do act above the law. There’s always bad seeds in every profession.
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1257 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:06 am to
Seems like the cop didn't want his buddies being filmed
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11971 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:09 am to
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You’re kidding right? The guy who is recording is in distress. He isn’t blocking any cops from what they are doing. When one of the officers told him to back up, he responded nicely and said okay. He turns around and gets ambushed by 2 cops.

I always respect the blue and thank them for their service. But sometimes, they do act above the law. There’s always bad seeds in every profession.


Didn't appear those cops were running after the filmer. I would guess those are the ones responding after a call for help. So, they are likely in a hurry to get to the situation, not the filmer.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18633 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:25 am to
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As i said, act respectful with your altercations with police and you will always come out smelling like roses no matter what.


bullshite. 90% of the times I've dealt with police they've been assholes to me. This has been after I was the victim of a hit and run, when I was a witness to a vehicular homicide, etc. Cops seem to always be on a power trip and think they're the smartest in the room when in actuality they have an IQ that hovers near room temperature.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43058 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:37 am to
Lebron won't be happy
Get ready for more protests
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
2652 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:37 am to
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Found the commie. Would love to see your reaction if cops randomly show up to your crib wanting to barge in against your will over a neighbor hearing “screaming”


I wonder what the opinion would be if Jaxson Hayes didn't play for the Pels. If he played for the Rockets, I'm sure the tone would be different. People will defend players on their favorite teams to the grave, and will trash other players on rival teams. I have no dog in the fight. I'm sure that Hayes did something stupid, cops got pissed off and probably got excessive. Neither party was in the right here; this is a lose-lose.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52678 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:47 am to
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I wonder what the opinion would be if Jaxson Hayes didn't play for the Pels.
there would be no opinion because none of us would know about it. No one is talking about this besides Pels Fans and media. And even if we were, you could make a case about how this is another Sefolosha type incident
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 11:48 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25808 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:57 am to
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bullshite. 90% of the times I've dealt with police they've been assholes to me. This has been after I was the victim of a hit and run, when I was a witness to a vehicular homicide, etc. Cops seem to always be on a power trip and think they're the smartest in the room when in actuality they have an IQ that hovers near room temperature.




i've encountered plenty of assholes as well. never felt the urge to fight one of them like a dumbass. Stay respectful and let them act an arse. Those are the kind that are trying to bait you into something, and they are shitty cops. Be the bigger man. I was just a shite head teenager and had my car searched on two separate occasions after bull shite traffic stops, both done illegally, but i was the one that acted with respect and maturity. I had nothing to hide, and walked away from both altercations with the shite head cops without even a ticket. I was profiled b/c of the car i was driving.
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