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Electric Cars - the biggest scam?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:04 pm
I don't get electric cars. Every automaker is doing this feelgood bs of claiming they're going all electric by 2030 or something.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity
3. There are not half enough power plants
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model.
Also, far as I'm concerned, the value of a premium brand is out the window. Porsche's race cars, Cadillac's V8 and tailfins, Mercedes' engineering... all means nothing. It's a giant golf cart.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity
3. There are not half enough power plants
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model.
Also, far as I'm concerned, the value of a premium brand is out the window. Porsche's race cars, Cadillac's V8 and tailfins, Mercedes' engineering... all means nothing. It's a giant golf cart.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:05 pm to tadman
I plug my tesla into the wall like a laptop. Where are you getting this expensive home charger thing from?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:06 pm to tadman
quote:
claiming they're going all electric by 2030 or something.
They aren't.
EVs will continue to gain a foothold.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:07 pm to tadman
Agree on some of the points, but have you ever been in a Tesla? I had a friend take me for a spin. It was legit fast with no gear ratio...all power.
I cant talk about the cities not having chargers as I will never visit any large shitehole city again.
I cant talk about the cities not having chargers as I will never visit any large shitehole city again.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:08 pm to tadman
quote:
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations
why do we have a chip shortage again?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:08 pm to tadman
Look into some EV related companies and buy stock in them. Start with the company Charger Point
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:10 pm to tadman
Nah it'll be fine.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:11 pm to tadman
quote:
the biggest scam?
2020 Election says HI!
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:14 pm to tadman
Horses are more than sufficient to get us where we need to go and to plow the fields. We don’t need those noisy gasoline powered horses.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:18 pm to tadman
I don't get electric cars. Every automaker is doing this feelgood bs of claiming they're going all electric by 2030 or something.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house (FALSE)
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity (FALSE)
3. There are not half enough power plants (FALSE)
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking) (TRUE ENOUGH)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations (70% from China so TRUE)
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model. (FALSE).
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house (FALSE)
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity (FALSE)
3. There are not half enough power plants (FALSE)
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking) (TRUE ENOUGH)
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations (70% from China so TRUE)
From start to finish it is a fatally flawed model. (FALSE).
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:19 pm to tadman
EV’s don’t bother me. It’s a niche market opportunity I think is cool. If you want one, get one. And the Tesla is a fricking cool machine.
What does bother me is the overarching narrative that they must be the end all be all, and that the combustion engine should go the way of the dodo bird.
That’s what’s stupid. As you mentioned, it’s not sustainable in the least at this point nor anytime soon.
We didn’t abandon the horse and buggy when the Model-T was created. Nor did we abandon the prop plane when jet engines were created. You let the technology grow organically. The market will do what it will do when you let it live and breathe.
Democrats are stupid in everything they think, believe, and scream about when it comes to economics and how it works with their agendas. It’s pathetic.
What does bother me is the overarching narrative that they must be the end all be all, and that the combustion engine should go the way of the dodo bird.
That’s what’s stupid. As you mentioned, it’s not sustainable in the least at this point nor anytime soon.
We didn’t abandon the horse and buggy when the Model-T was created. Nor did we abandon the prop plane when jet engines were created. You let the technology grow organically. The market will do what it will do when you let it live and breathe.
Democrats are stupid in everything they think, believe, and scream about when it comes to economics and how it works with their agendas. It’s pathetic.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:22 pm to tadman
The easiest thing would just be running an electrical cord from your house to the plug in that the linemen use up by the wires
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:22 pm to tadman
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:23 pm to tadman
Where’s the scam?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:23 pm to tadman
The sad part is 13 down votes already. The sheep are being led.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:24 pm to tadman
quote:I don't know of a single EV that doesn't come with a charger.
1. You need a very expensive charger in your house
quote:The vast majority of charging happens at night when the grid has excess capacity.
2. Your city/neighborhood does not have the grid capacity
quote:Current capacity can handle years of growth, and many EV owners also buy solar to both offset their consumption and get the maximum benefit of the EV.
3. There are not half enough power plants
quote:Policy issue, but diversification and decentralization are probably the best way forward.
4. We can't pull our heads out of our asses to decide what kind of power plants are safe to build (coal=bad nuke=war natgas=fracking)
quote:If we're smart, we will boost production here. Even if we stop going to EVs, the rest of the world won't. We'd be wise to lead here rather than follow.
5. Virtually the entire supply chain for batteries comes from unfriendly nations
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:25 pm to tadman
The only scam is you thinking all these companies will be 100% electric in 8+ years.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:26 pm to tadman
Can't wait for all boomers to retire and not have opinions anymore 
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