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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job
Posted on 7/22/21 at 12:42 pm to AndyCBR
Posted on 7/22/21 at 12:42 pm to AndyCBR
Totally understand where you are coming from.
Corporations have grown WAY too powerful, I think our republic has morphed into a capitalistic corporatocracy.
Many years ago, my mentor and boss jokingly told me "Our mission statement is to maximize profit at the expense of the employees" If you really sit back and think about it, he wasn't wrong. I have carried that statement in the back of my mind throughout my career. Not to use it at the expense of my employees, but to try to shield them from it as best I can.
Corporate America truly does suck, it's full of political correctness, buzzwords, and TPR reports. You have to find ways to fight back against it from within without becoming a target yourself.
Corporations have grown WAY too powerful, I think our republic has morphed into a capitalistic corporatocracy.
Many years ago, my mentor and boss jokingly told me "Our mission statement is to maximize profit at the expense of the employees" If you really sit back and think about it, he wasn't wrong. I have carried that statement in the back of my mind throughout my career. Not to use it at the expense of my employees, but to try to shield them from it as best I can.
Corporate America truly does suck, it's full of political correctness, buzzwords, and TPR reports. You have to find ways to fight back against it from within without becoming a target yourself.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:07 pm to DhanTigers212
Tell your boss that you need a meeting with him and an HR rep. In that meeting, disclose to them that you intended to get the vaccine but your Dr. said that the vaccine may put you at a higher risk than actually getting COVID. Tell them you have no issue distancing and wearing a mask, but to please stop asking about getting the vaccine because you are feeling pressured to do so against your Dr. advice. Now that you have disclosed this to them discreetly, you hope there are no hard feelings, you just wanted to share with them why you haven't been vaccinated. They can't make you disclose anymore than that.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:11 pm to Chromdome35
Ya you'd be right in theory but you're talking about now versus 1.5 years ago when a vaccine wasnt available. How many offices have nobody vaccinated, already been exposed with nobody immune to this virus?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:14 pm to Bulldogblitz
quote:
you vaccinated?
Yes
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:33 pm to DhanTigers212
OHSA is requiring companies to be responsible for medical issues and jab injuries when mandating employees to receive injections.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:45 pm to AndyCBR
The comment “ There is no money in this garbage for private companies”
Please don’t quit your dish washing job.
If I’ve got 350 employees and an outbreak occurs …suddenly there is not enough manpower to manufacture.
One example came in the beginning stages when North Dakota had a meat packing plant shut down due to an outbreak because the Hispanics were going home to the trailer park at night and were bringing the virus into the plant. Complete shut down.
Want to try that “ no money in it for private companies” again?
Please don’t quit your dish washing job.
If I’ve got 350 employees and an outbreak occurs …suddenly there is not enough manpower to manufacture.
One example came in the beginning stages when North Dakota had a meat packing plant shut down due to an outbreak because the Hispanics were going home to the trailer park at night and were bringing the virus into the plant. Complete shut down.
Want to try that “ no money in it for private companies” again?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:47 pm to chalmetteowl
I would hate to own a company right now and have to deal with workers lecturing me how I can’t require vaccinations.
I work for a company that requires flu vaccine, Hep B vaccine, MMR, and regular TB skin tests. The COVID requirement will be here shortly. If you don’t like it, go work somewhere else. You people don’t seem to realize that it’s employment and not a democracy. If you don’t like it, you will be terminated.
And the people saying to collect unemployment for a year just to show them, I would like to know how you plan to live on $300 a week. Yeah, you showed them.
And why does someone always have to make the comparison to Nazis every time someone requires something of you. Really? Nazis? This is equivalent to the people that call you a racist if you do something they don’t agree with. Oh you voted for Trump, you’re a racist. You live in the south, so you’re a racist. You don’t like Biden, you’re a racist.
You’re an employee, and probably easily replaced.
I work for a company that requires flu vaccine, Hep B vaccine, MMR, and regular TB skin tests. The COVID requirement will be here shortly. If you don’t like it, go work somewhere else. You people don’t seem to realize that it’s employment and not a democracy. If you don’t like it, you will be terminated.
And the people saying to collect unemployment for a year just to show them, I would like to know how you plan to live on $300 a week. Yeah, you showed them.
And why does someone always have to make the comparison to Nazis every time someone requires something of you. Really? Nazis? This is equivalent to the people that call you a racist if you do something they don’t agree with. Oh you voted for Trump, you’re a racist. You live in the south, so you’re a racist. You don’t like Biden, you’re a racist.
You’re an employee, and probably easily replaced.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:49 pm to DhanTigers212
It is certainly within the rights of your employer to require the vaccine.
It is certainly your right to quit.
It is certainly your right to quit.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:49 pm to DhanTigers212
A fantastic reason to start working towards financial freedom. Forgive out how to make your own money. Never have to worry about this shite again.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:58 pm to bluedragon
quote:
The comment “ There is no money in this garbage for private companies”
Please don’t quit your dish washing job.
If I’ve got 350 employees and an outbreak occurs …suddenly there is not enough manpower to manufacture.
One example came in the beginning stages when North Dakota had a meat packing plant shut down due to an outbreak because the Hispanics were going home to the trailer park at night and were bringing the virus into the plant. Complete shut down.
Want to try that “ no money in it for private companies” again?
Then by all means take on the burden of trying to track and enforce everyone’s COVID status and vaccination. And then be responsible for all adverse reactions to your required vaccine.
Sounds like a real profitable business model.
Only someone in HR could say something so utterly stupid.
You can’t control a pandemic and you can’t control your employees exposure and activities outside work.
This is all the illusion of control and the sooner you knuckleheads give up the better.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:00 pm to Chromdome35
quote:I was simply asking from a legal standpoint. I agree that it would be ludicrous to make such decisions on those grounds in most cases, but there are exceptions depending of the type of job that is being filled. I, too, have hired 100s of people to work closely together under one roof in a large business.
We hire thousands of people every month, we can't ask for vaccination status or make hiring decisions based on vaccination status.
What we do is tell them if the customer they will be working for has a mandatory vaccination policy. Once they are onboarded, then they have to sign an acknowledgment of the policy and are subject to termination if they break it.
It's extremely inefficient, of course, we'd rather weed out those who aren't before we go through all the trouble to onboard them just to end up terminating them. But the law is the law and we have to follow it.
I'm retired now, but if I weren't, I would seriously ponder the pros and cons of this topic.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:44 pm to AndyCBR
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Then by all means take on the burden of trying to track and enforce everyone’s COVID status and vaccination.
We do it in the municipalities and customers where mandates are in place...and we have more than 50K employees. It's a big costly pain in the arse, but we do it because there really isn't an alternative, you can't fly blind.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:51 pm to DhanTigers212
Start identifying as another gender. That will slow his roll.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:53 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
Corporate America truly does suck, it's full of political correctness, buzzwords, and TPR reports.
Lawyers and insurance people made it like that
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:54 pm to LSU316
Well tell those same unvaccinated ppl to NOT run to the hospitals or get tested when they become infected. That’s what’s leading to this hysteria or rising numbers.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:54 pm to chalmetteowl
Progressives made it like that.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:56 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
It is certainly within the rights of your employer to require the vaccine.
But it shouldn't be for a vaccine that is designated for emergency use only. Pretty shitty for any employer to force a person into that position.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:59 pm to AaronTN
So what did your lawyer do to get it straight for you?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:00 pm to BabylonNTing
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OHSA is requiring companies to be responsible for medical issues and jab injuries when mandating employees to receive injections.
I wonder how this plays into your insurance? Let’s say an employee dies due to the vaccine and the a spouse sues. I can’t imagine general liability will cover that. I’ll have to ask my insurance guy next time we talk.
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